Re: Please welcome . . .
From: | Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...> |
Date: | Thursday, December 18, 2003, 22:44 |
En réponse à Costentin Cornomorus :
>It's illogical, because once you place a new
>something before all other somethings it becomes
>the first - the formost - something.
There's no such thing as a "new" physical law. Physical laws are intemporal
(unless you believe that physical laws of the universe can change over
time. Not per se impossible, but with such a principle it becomes
impossible to study *anything* in a scientific way. Unless you suppose that
this evolution is predictible, in which case you just reinvent intemporal
laws, where you just added time as a parameter). However, they can be
discovered (and recognised as such) at different times. The basic law that
was talked about *is* the first and foremost, compared to the other laws of
thermodynamics, because those other laws depend on it (logically and in a
scientific point of view. It's more of a principle than the other
thermodynamic laws, and thus more fundamental). It's just that people
previously overlooked it. And since the numerotation of the laws of
thermodynamics was already well established, it was simpler to call it
"zeroth law" rather than "fourth law" (since it *is* illogical to have a
fourth law which is the basis for the first three).
However, I learned to call it "fundamental law" which is also a way to put
it on top of the hierarchy (which contains only two other laws of
thermodynamics. I've learned both the three-law and the two-law
formulations, but kept only the last one. They are completely equivalent
from a scientific point of view). However, It kind of puts it apart from
the other laws of thermodynamics, which is incorrect.
> > We're physicists. We don't do common sense.
>
>That's for sure!
As Ferko has on his sig.: "Common sense is what tells you the earth is flat".
Christophe Grandsire.
http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr
You need a straight mind to invent a twisted conlang.
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