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Re: question: Arabic morphology

From:Yoon Ha Lee <yl112@...>
Date:Monday, August 21, 2000, 2:43
On Sun, 20 Aug 2000, Thomas R. Wier wrote:

> Yoon Ha Lee wrote: > > > Arabic uses three-consonant verbs, correct? I borrowed this for > > Chevraqis (which is a compound, I haven't figured out for what yet, and > > the name is subject to change anyway). > > > > I was trying to use the SAC and ran into a problem. > > How does the morphology evolve? > > This is a big, big question you're asking here. I wouldn't even know > how to begin to address it. I can, however, suggest a book you could > read: _Grammaticalization_, in the Cambridge linguistics series. (I haven't > read it, but all the others I've read seem to be pretty good). Also, for > a somewhat more iconoclastic look at language change, look at Dixon's > _The Rise and Fall of Languages_, where he introduces the notion of > punctuated equilibria into linguistics (at least, I think he's the first to discuss > that idea in linguistics).
I'll keep those in mind. Until I get some more money I may have to settle for raiding Cornell's libraries. :-)
> > imperative: aCCaCu -> CiCaCu > > causative: CiCoCu -> CiCoCu > > generic: CaCaCu -> CeCaCu > > [What is 'generic' here?]
Used in making general statements, e.g. Daggers are sharp. You're talking about a class of items, not a particular instance--making a generalization. I don't know if it's legit, but hey, it tickled my fancy.
> > Now that I look at essays on how sound change happens, a wholesale shift > > like this seems unlikely. My question is, as far as this morphology > > business goes, do I apply sound change across a pattern (what I have > > above) or per individual word? > > Well, the thing is, phonology and morphology usually operate autonomously > from one another. This is one of the reasons we have the distinction between
Okay. I get confused too easily. <wry look>
> What soundchange really is is mapping the distribution of one class onto > another, and then shifting the relevant segments of words to the new class. So, for > example, the most famous such shift was Grimm's Law, which governs the behavior > of the shift of Indo-European consonants: > > (a) voiceless stops to voiceless fricatives: [p t k] --> [f T x] (--> [f T h]) > [No change in place or voicing; change in manner of articulation] > (b) voiced stops to voiceless stops: [b d g] --> [p t k] > [change in voicing but not place or manner] > (c) 'voiced aspirates'* to voiced stops: [b_h d_h g_h] --> [b d g] > [complicated, but a change in voicing, not place or manner] > > *(I use quotes here because voiced aspirates technically cannot exist, but that is > the label used for them.) > > Vowels shift in the same way: they also have natural classes (like [+high], [-back] etc.). > Once you get this principle of regular sound change, you can then easily apply > that to your own language. In your case, I would say you should consider what > kind of consonant inventory you have as well. The quality of the vowels adjacent > consonants can affect how shifts occur, and vice-versa.
Okay. I'm trying to stay away from Indo-European examples simply because the language isn't going to look very Indo-European (I hope), but the book I had with lots of neat Austronesian examples is being borrowed by a friend.
> So, my suggestion is, if I understand your problem correctly, would be to read up > on articulatory phonetics first (assuming you haven't already done this), so that you > can get a feel for precisely what changes are more likely to occur. > > (Please excuse me if I seem to be going into detail about stuff you already know; > I have little idea of where you're coming from, so I just go through a bit of > everything. I hope this has been helpful.)
No, no, it's very helpful, and if I ask a question, I really oughtn't be offended by people who are kind enough to help me! :-) I think at this point what I need are more books, which will happen slowly. YHL