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Re: Correction, I hope, of M/C URL

From:The Gray Wizard <dbell@...>
Date:Saturday, March 18, 2000, 21:17
> From: And Rosta > > John Cowan: > > Matt Pearson wrote: > > > > > The only decades-long conlanging projects I know of > > > --those of the artlang variety, anyway--are Teonaht and (I think) > > > Amman-Iar. > > > > Also Quenya, Sindarin, Livagian. Loglan/Lojban is not an artlang, > > but I just thought I'd mention that it's now about 45 years old. > > If conlangs are likened to cities, then Teonaht would be an ancient one > with lots of winding alleys, whereas Livagian would be a modern one, > forever being rebuilt on the same site (with each new phase of building > demolishing previous ones still incomplete). So as a conlanging project > Livagian is (at a stretch) decades-long, but as a language few parts > of it have so far ever been more than about five years old (tho O! would > that this would change!). Of course, to have a decades-long conlanging > project it helps to be a few decades old oneself; here Sally has a slight > edge on most of us, and I myself seem to be becoming older than average > for this list (what with most old-timers drifting away, and a perpetual > influx of frighteningly precocious 14 year olds joining us).
amman iar really fits the same mold as Livagian. Although I have been working on what is notionally the same language for decades (and unlike the current crop of precocious 14 year olds, I have many decades under my belt and at 56 am surely among the oldest on the list), the current incarnation bares no resemblance at all to my earliest endeavors and very little to the language as it existed just a few years ago. The language has however evolved through a series of small skips and large leaps from efforts started when I was a precocious 14 year-old (the only bad thing about being precocious is that you inevitably grow out of it). Like And, I often feared that the darned thing would never settle down to anything remotely resembling stability. It took a bout of exhaustion from overwork and a year-long sabbatical during which I honed the language to its current state to change that. I'm convinced that any hope of reaching the finishing touches on a created languages requires a concentration of effort that few of us working stiffs can afford. I've recently started work on my second-ever language, forendar, but now that I am once again gainfully employed in a regular job, I find the effort excruciatingly slow. I suspect it will be decades before it gets anywhere near the state of amman iar. David P.S. Apologies to any of you who have visited my site lately. I have been having problems with the FrontPage generated navigation bars. Everything is still there, but navigation is currently something less than intuitive. Microsoft is now suggesting that I do a "clean publish", i.e. delete everything from my site and republish. If you happen to look and find nothing there, I am undoubtedly in the midst of just that. David. E. Bell The Gray Wizard dbell@graywizard.net www.graywizard.net "irvorisel in villissen ciroinarrion unastil senil el findien vivas na elieth en errutharth limie" "Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards for they are subtle and quick to anger" JRRT