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From:Steg Belsky <draqonfayir@...>
Date:Thursday, May 3, 2001, 15:28
On Wed, 2 May 2001 18:22:57 EDT David Peterson <DigitalScream@...>
> In a message dated 5/2/01 3:03:23 PM, jaspax@U.WASHINGTON.EDU writes: > << Anyway, I wrote to say (1) that both "put" and "book" have /U/ > (the lax > sound), and (2) that it doesn't matter since the distinction between > /u/ > and /U/ may be gone in 20 years anyway. >>
> I realized at the time that it was kind of a joke, I > sounded it > out and did over and over again, I found I do have two different > vowels in > "put" and "book": my lips are rounded with "put" and they definitely > are not > with "book". Did I just invent this when I saw that? Does any > other native > English speaker have this? Any native Southern California English > speaker? > > -David
- I have it too... it seems to be connected to the aspiration on the /p/ of "put". So it's more a feature of the preceding consonant than anything tied to the vowel. It seems to be the same as the reason for the feeling that i had when me and my brother were coming up with the alphabet for ool-Nuziiferoi (whose alphabet eventually developed into the alphabets of Rokbeigalmki) and felt that /p/ is a more "forwards" sound than /b/. Btw, the {oo} in "ool-Nuziiferoi" is that vowel of "put"/"book" again. Both ool-Nuziiferoi and Rokbeigalmki have both /U/ and /u/, although Rokbeigalmki's /U/ is fronted, closer to /u-/ or something like that. -Stephen (Steg) "some say the end is near, some say we'll see armaggedon soon; i certainly hope we will - sure could use a vacation from this..." ~ "Ænema" by Tool


J Matthew Pearson <pearson@...>SoCal vowels (was Re: sending mail to the list)