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Re: Poetry: alliteration

From:Padraic Brown <pbrown@...>
Date:Friday, January 7, 2000, 3:43
On Thu, 6 Jan 2000, Nik Taylor wrote:

>John Cowan wrote: >> > Wilt thou learn the lore / that was long secret >> > of the Five that came / from a far country? >> >> Note how this fits the rules: the stressed syllables of the first line >> are "learn", "lore", "long", "sec", showing double alliteration, >> and "Five", "came", "far", "coun", showing crossed alliteration. >> Also, most of the unstressed syllables are in the left half. The / represents >> the pause > >I can never get the stresses right. I read that as (using capitals for >stressed syllables): >WILT thou LEARN the LORE that WAS long SECret >of the FIVE that CAME FROM a far COUNtry >and on that second verse, I initially read it "...from A far COUNtry" >before rereading it. > >Trying the stresses you assigned just sounds bizarre to me, especially >the "long secret".
It sounded perfectly natural to me. Were I to read the lines as prose, John's stresses are exactly where I'd stress in speech. Were I to read it "metricly", as if it were written in poetic feet, I'd end up with what you gave - a nice and regular TUMtee TUMtee TUM kind of rhythm. This because we were never taught _how_ to read English metric poetry properly, so I always end up with some kind of sad farce.
> >Are there any rules of thumb for figuring out where they wanted you to >put the stresses?
I'd try simply reading the lines as naturally as possible. Take the following; in which I mark where the stress falls naturally for me: Pearl of delight that a prince doth please ^^^^^ ^^^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ to grace in gold enclosed so clear, ^^^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^^ I vow that from over orient seas ^^^ ^ ^^ ^^^^ never proved I any in price her peer. ^^ ^^^^ ^^^^^ ^^^^ John can feel free to correct, but I'd be willing to bet I'm pretty close with the stresses. Padraic.
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