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Re: Tunu not dead

From:Taka Tunu <takatunu@...>
Date:Friday, October 7, 2005, 5:53
Larry wrote:

Many Spanish speakers have a hard time distinguishing [tS] from [S] in
their speech.
I did not notice. But my wife pronounces /y/ and /ll/ as [Z] or [dZ]. <<< Now, if self-segregation were not important in Tunu (or Konya), then yes, a collection of monosyllabic roots would be better than not having them.
Diversion: Many loglangs reserve monosyllabics to express concepts that have a specific grammar value: usually the tenses, aspects, plural, feminine, evidentials, etc., because the langmakers think that "these concepts are going to be used more often" and "these other ones are logically more important." I prefer a different approach. First, the concepts I tag more often or find important are not such for other people. Whether plural, tense, classifiers, evidentials, etc are considered trivial in other languages and vice versa depends on languages. My feeling when collecting as many "important" concepts as possible is getting a list of random concepts that is incomplete forsome and useless for others. Second, I want to use even these concepts as plain roots. Indonesian makes with ada "there" the verb mengadakan "to make exist, make happen, organize" and with sebab "cause, because" menyebabkan "to cause", instead of using abstract tags that are redundant with the roots "exist" and "cause". That's why I make all concepts and roots the same: they all have the same potential importance and it is not for me to dictate my imaginary speaker which is to use more often. I know that the word "and" may be linked to slightly different concepts: accompany, succession, join, gather, etc. so I prefer to leave the imaginary speaker select the root. <<< Also, in a limited phoneme set, having a lot of very short words may reduce redundancy, depending on what roles they play and how they are implemented. ---larry
I agree. What roles they play is the langmaker's decision and how (and whether) they are implemented I leave it to the speaker's decision. µ.