Re: USAGE: No rants! (USAGE: di"f"thong)
|From:||Andreas Johansson <andjo@...>|
|Date:||Wednesday, May 31, 2006, 8:50|
Citerar "Mark J. Reed" <markjreed@...>:
> On 5/30/06, wayne chevrier <wachevrier@...> wrote:
> > My idea goes like this:
> > <ux> -> <w>
> > <j> -> <j>
> > <jx> -> <zy> or <jy>
> > <cx> -> <cy>
> > <sx> -> <sy>
> > <gx> -> <xy> or <gy>
> > <dz> -> <x>
> Beyond <ux> to <w>, which is already used by many people who otherwise
> use the -x digraphs, none of those feels like an improvement.
> Fine, since everyone is taking this seriously. Lessee what we have:
> -x: a b c cx d e f g gx h hx i j jx k l m n o p r s sx t u w v z
> CXS: a b ts tS d e f g dZ h x i j Z k l m n o p r s S t u w v z
> If I were going to change anything - which I am not proposing. I have
> no desire to become the creator of Idido or whatever! - I would first
> merge <k> and <hx> into a single phoneme; most of the words with <hx>
> have alternates with <k> anyway, and [k] is a common realization of
> [x] in languages which lack the latter sound.
> I would then divide all the affricates into their component
> stop+fricative sounds. If we're going to be forced to use digraphs
> anyway, they might as well be digraphs that make logical sense. Of
> course, you could then reanalyze the affricates as realizations of a
> two-phoneme set and poof! No digraphs at all. :)
> Then we'd just need symbols for /S/ and /Z/ and we're done. For maximum
> comprehensibility, I propose switching to <y> for /j/, then using <j>
> for /Z/. Which leaves the question of what to use for /S/; I can see
> arguments for both <c> and <x> (the latter mostly in that it's used
> that way in some Asian transcription systems). I choose c.
This is quite similar to a spelling reform of ol' Esperanto that Mark
Rosenfelder once suggested (and which I can't currently seem to find), except
he used 'x' for /S/.
Using 'x' for /S/ is common in Iberoromance, altho in Spanish it's gone >[x] and
mostly got respelt as 'j'. For reasons that should need little explanation, the
convention is also common in Mesoamerican languages.
I'm not aware of any language using 'c' for /S/, but I'd certainly not be
surprised if it is somewhere. It's /dZ/ in Turkish ...