Re: The Story of Guper the Foolish Troll

Raymond Brown wrote:
>
>Ah, stops made with the epiglottis!  Yep - such a stop could be
>voiced. When one recalls that in Polynesian langs and, according to
>Yuen Ren Chao, in Chinese /?/ corresponds in some languages to the
>/k/ of others, the Nenc use of an epiglottal stop where related
>langs have glottal stops seems hardly remarkable.
As I have written before, I think patrick's labels for the various
sounds are misleading or wrong altogether - and is most likely due
to his limited knowledge on the subject as he himself has admitted.
Now that epiglottal is mentioned, I believe patrick has confused
glottal with epiglottal. This could definitely explain gurgliness,
the possibility of voicing, and the label of approximant on the
so-called "glottal" sounds. Might it not be that Patrick's so-called
"glottal" sounds are in fact *epiglottal*?

Just trying to sort out the confusion.

-kristian- 8-)