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Re: OT: Definitely Not YAEPT: English phoneme inventory?

From:Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...>
Date:Thursday, July 17, 2003, 20:56
On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 01:30:55PM -0700, JS Bangs wrote:
> Even better: _writer_ [rVI4r=] v. _rider_ [raI4r=], the most infamous > example (because the conditioning environment is lost on the surface, > here).
Yeah, but only on the surface. Underneath, it's just the standard English lengthening of tense vowels before a voiced consonant, notwithstanding the fact that the consonants in question wind up reduced to phones that aren't distinguished based on voice. Guess the lengthening happens first. -Mark