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Re: OT: Definitely Not YAEPT: English phoneme inventory?

From:Doug Dee <amateurlinguist@...>
Date:Saturday, July 19, 2003, 16:58
In a message dated 7/16/2003 9:21:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
markjreed@MAIL.COM writes:


> Technically, yes, this concerns English pronunciation. But I'm not > interested at this time in idiodialectic variation. I'm just looking > for a good list of English phonemes, regardless of how they're actually > realized in 'lect X. > > A dictionary pronunciation guide seemed like a good place to start, > so I grabbed the one from m-w.com. But I'd be interested to hear > comments from you fine folks. > > Here's the M-W guide: > > M-W X-SAMPA > \&\ as a and u in abut /V/ or /@/ > \a\ as a in ash /{/ > \A\ as a in ace /e/ > \ä\ as o in mop /A/ > \au\ as ou in out /aU/ > \ch\ as ch in chin /t_S/ > \e\ as e in bet /E/ >
How does M-W reflect the 3-way merry/marry/Mary distinction? (Around here, "merry" has the vowel of "pet" usually labeled /E/, "marry" has the vowel of "pat", usually labeled /{/, while "Mary" is distinct from both. Some people say it has the same vowel as "ace" (which you gave as /e/ but which I'd rather call /ej/ or the like), but that doesn't work for me since I think "yeah" has the Mary vowel & it doesn't sound like "yay".

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