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Kalusa: Replies to several questions raised

From:Gary Shannon <fiziwig@...>
Date:Thursday, May 25, 2006, 1:06
> I voted twice positively for "Tapu kisa da zhura. =
This table is
> blue." That boosted it from 100 to 150 to 167. So if
there's a
> sentence I really love or really hate, I can
single-handedly give it a
> very high or very low score. I'm just sayin'. > > Larry Sulky
I've been wrestling with this problem. It's easy enough to limit people to one vote per person when it's just some single thing like a poll question, but when hundreds, and potentially thousands of sentences are involed it becomes more difficult to work out a good way to keep track of which sentences a person has or has not voted upon. I'm still trying to solve it though. Any solution would require that people login to the site to establish their "identity", although the login process could be made anonymous and secure.
> > ---- > > Wow, as I've typed this up, the corpus is now up to
301 sentences!
> Wild... Anyway, not to bug, Gary, but didn't you
say you were
> going to link to the files you used to create this?
Seeing how
> many sentences I've added to Kalusa, I'd love to be
able to do
> the same for my own languages to build up a corpus! > > -David > > ----
I was going to upload the source to the site, but then I thought maybe I should fix a couple of bugs first, and that lead to a few more changes, etc. etc. I'll upload it this evening and put a link on the main page. But be warned, I'll be adding new features, so newer versions of the software will be available frequently.
> All the "vito" sentences with a ranking of >=100 > have "SUBJ vito es OBJ". "vito" seems to want its
> marked with "es". > > All the handful of "a" sentences currently have CQ
> below 50. > > -- > Jim Henry > > ----
In the beginning, "es" was required under all circumstances to mark the direct object clause. Most sentences use the direct object marker "es" at all times, but some others seem to imply that the direct object marker on a clause is optional when the clause order is SVO, but required when the clause order is other than SVO. So all three of these would be correct: Ma vito es palu. (SVO marked) I see cat. Ma vito palu. (SVO unmarked) I see cat. Es palu ma vito. (OSV marked) Cat I see, But this would be incorrect: *Palu ma vito. (OSV unmarked) That's just my take on what I've seen so far. Personally, I've kept my input to a minimum since I had very definite ideas on the direction I wanted it to evolve, and it's not evolving "my way" at all! :-) So be it!
> > One thing that makes the ranking a bit interesting
is that there
> is no way to object to part of the sentence. So,
for example, say
> someone has written a long sentence with words that
> agrees on, but glosses it in the past tense and
fails to use "dun".
> The result is ungrammatical (at least, according to
> demand), but only because of the omission of "dun";
not because
> of anything else in the sentence. >
Good point. I'm not sure how to fix this, except maybe to have two ranking numbers for each sentence; a grammar rank and vocabulary rank. Perhaps when I get the dictionary pages up a running with their own ranks for each word then specific words can be voted on in the dictionary and the sentence ranks can all be assumed to involve grammatical issues.
> > -David > > --------------


Larry Sulky <larrysulky@...>