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Re: Quenya/Silindion (Was: Starlings' Song: Nindic Translation)

From:daniel andreasson <danielandreasson@...>
Date:Saturday, March 23, 2002, 16:09
Okay. Here we go again. :)

Elliott Lash wrote:

> oh, I think you confused Yivrindil and Silindion for the > "AIYA" thing, I just went to Yoon Ha's website describing > conlang greetings. Yivrindil is definitely "aiya" and > Silindion is definitely "lare/lanta". :)
Yes, I realized that after sending my posting. D'oh! :) Sorry about that.
> Also, the Silindion link on this page: > http://home.swipnet.se/~w-14295/links.html
Oh, that's *my* page! :)
> should be changed to: http://erelion.free.fr/ > since, the information on the link you have is...old..and > bad.. :)
I've been kinda busy (and away) the last two weeks so I haven't been able to keep up with conlang-l and updating links and stuff. I'll do it right away. (Hmm... My host seems to be down, but as soon as it's up I'll update it.)
> Hehe, thanks! That's vaguely the point, tho I prefer to call > it very Welshy..just because it was more consciously designed > after all the Welsh material I have..and love.
Me too. I'm doing my own version of Sindarin (Cein) developed from Quenya, so I'm interested in similar projects (which yours certainly is, since it's a sister to a Quenya-y lang).
> lots of words? hmm...well, with the exception of AIYA (see below), > it's mostly little particles..and even then, not really. The general > sound is Quenya-like, since it's phonology is similar, although the > phonotactics are very different...a lot of syllable types occur in > Silindion that are totally foreign to Quenya, also, there are alot > more clusters and such. The real way Quenya influenced Silindion was > orthography, and general feel.
What's probably confusing me is that a lot of words look the same but mean different things (tarkil, lond-, ainu-, lune-, koa-, etc.).
> -Cya pronominal endings..yeah, very dirrectly Quenya inspired, but > note it's only a genitive ending. TA "that", might as well have been > from Indo-European. In fact, a lot of ROOTS are Indo-European
inspired,
> or, the semantics of ROOTS are Indo-European inspired. Ve "as"..yeah, > from Quenya.
Aha. Anyway. What I'm trying to say is that my main conlang (or rather first/closest to my heart conlang) Rinya is and always has been very influenced by Quenya, but I want it to have a slightly different feel. I've tried several styles but none have really hit the spot. That's why I'm interested in your approach, to see how you've gone about it. Silindion inspires me to start anew with Rinya (I already have some ideas in my head). If you see what I mean.
> and anyone who's interested...visit the website: > http://erelion.free.fr/ put together by Christophe Grandsire. :)
I have! :) ||| daniel -- danielandreasson @ swipnet.se | http://home.swipnet.se/escape