----- Original Message -----
From: "Christophe Grandsire" <christophe.grandsire@...>
To: <CONLANG@...>
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: Missing the sky
> En réponse à Joe Hill <joe@...>:
>
> >
> > As far as I remember..*djeu/*dyeu was the Sky God, commonly known as
> > Jove.
> >
>
> Yep! But where do you think the name come from?
>
> > Ok, I've just looked it up in the PIE roots index.
> >
> > *djeu-onom (-onom is the infinitive suffix) is 'to shine'
> >
> > '*djeu-' the noun, means the Sky God, or alternatively, the sky.
> >
>
> Exactly the "day sky". And the name of the god (or the gods, because very
early
> the name was taken to simply mean "god", probably by metonymy, the gods
being
> named after the place they were supposed to dwell in - or at least it's
the
> theory I've read and it makes sense :)) ) is derived from it (usually with
a
> suffix -(e/o)s). And by the way, the name Jupiter comes from the PIE
expression
> or compound dyew-s pH2ter (H2 is a laryngeal. But I'm not sure it's the
right
> one :)) . As for the vowel, remember that in PIE the vowel e could
alternate
> with o or disappear altogether, so taking the form of a compound the word
could
> easily become dyu-s pH2ter, with w becoming syllabic) which is basically
"deus
> pater" or Father God, and is found in plenty of Indo-European languages
(most
> of them didn't go as far as Latin which fused the two words). This
explains
> why "Jupiter" has its cases based on the stem "Jov-", like accusative
"Jovem"
> or genitive "Joves".
>
> In this case, I'm nearly sure the name of the sky god is derived from the
name
> of the day sky and not the contrary, since the name of the god usually
appears
> with the suffix -(e/o)s, but not the word for day sky.
Well...they're both derived from the verb 'to shine' Anyhow...do you know
under which circumstances the e/o/zero shift takes place?
oh, and H2 is the right laryngeal (probably pronounced /x/- which would make
pH2ter /pxter/