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Re: Missing the sky

From:Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Date:Thursday, March 7, 2002, 19:41
En réponse à Joe Hill <joe@...>:

> > Well...they're both derived from the verb 'to shine' Anyhow...do you > know > under which circumstances the e/o/zero shift takes place? >
Well, there's that theory which gives o a stative meaning and e a process one, but the data is contradictory, and it seems the alternation is mainly grammatical. You just have to learn where it takes place! :)) This is one of the strange parts of the PIE reconstruction, since it reconstructs only one vowel (i and u are just the vocalic reflections of y and w, which like r, l, m and n can behave like syllabic peaks or like syllable boundaries) which can take the values "e", "o" or "-" (null), the alternation seemingly being grammatically and even dialectically based (since different IE languages show cognates that are explainable only if we suppose that in the same form, one had a "e" and the other a "o" for instance. I can't give you examples right now because I can't find them :(( ).
> oh, and H2 is the right laryngeal (probably pronounced /x/- which would > make > pH2ter /pxter/ >
Nice cluster isn't it? :)) This one gave short a in Latin and Greek (pater) but short i in Sanskrit (pitar). Is it possible for /x/ to become that? I wonder by which sound changes it evolved that way... No wonder why people can't agree on the phonetic content of the laryngeals (they already can't agree on their number, so :))) ). Christophe. http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr Take your life as a movie: do not let anybody else play the leading role.

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