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Re: CHAT: geminate in _Messer_ (was: Announcement: New auxlang "Choton")

From:Andreas Johansson <andjo@...>
Date:Sunday, October 10, 2004, 13:27
Quoting "J. 'Mach' Wust" <j_mach_wust@...>:

> On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 11:02:53 +0200, Andreas Johansson <andjo@...> wrote:
> >Actually, I too find the new rules easier. On top of which they allow for > >more consistent treatment of vocalic length and don't involve the most > >annoying concept of orthographic syllables. > > > >(Unless you're telling us you've got a geminate in _Messer_ ...) > > That wouldn't be much of a surprise: This feature is found in Swiss standard > German, and Pascal's German seems to share other features with Swiss > standard German, as e.g. the distinction between short |ä| and |e|. > > However, Swiss standard German geminates the |ss|, that is, has a long /s:/ > as well in |Messer| as in |heissen| (or |heißen|). So this doesn't make any > distinction.
Neat. Are there any medial short [s], making for a a three-way contrast /s:/~/s/~/z/ in the Swiss standard? Pascal would have to for his comments re: |ss|~|ß| representing (in the old orthography) whether it spans two syllables or not to make sense (unless I'm missing something). Andreas