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OT: My name (jara: OT: Composing)

From:Jan van Steenbergen <ijzeren_jan@...>
Date:Saturday, March 22, 2003, 6:50
 --- Jake X skrzypszy:

> (don't speak dutch, so I'm guessing): [jan f@n 'stenb@rxen rot] (<-if > that's wrong, like I'm sure it is, how DO you pronounce your name?))
--- Joe skrzypszy:
> Well, I'm not dutch either but I'd guess [jan fan ste:nberX@n] Not much > difference, but less Schwas. Also, I'm not sure how to pronounce dutch |g|. > I've heard [G], [x], and [X].
You're close, Joe. Here is my own pronunciation: [%jAnfAn"ste:nbErX@(n)] The [A] instead of [a] is an important difference. In Poland I am [jan] indeed, but in the Netherlands definitely [jAn]. My experience is even that foreigners often confuse my [jAn] with [jOn]. As you write, the pronunciation of Dutch |g| is subject to dialectical variation. Same thing with |r|, which can become [r], [R\], [r\] or [j]. I must admit that before the [X] in my name, the [r] instead of being a real trill often sounds like some sort of glide that I cannot be very specific about ([M\] perhaps?). In the pronunciation of many people (not including me) a short schwa could be inserted between |r| and |g|. In Plat Amsterdams, I would expect something like: [%j6Jf@"StEjJbEr@X@] Oops! A Dutch pronunciation thread! Jan ===== "Originality is the art of concealing your source." - Franklin P. Jones __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts


Joe <joe@...>