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Re: Case

From:Irina Rempt-Drijfhout <ira@...>
Date:Tuesday, July 20, 1999, 20:14
On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, Nik Taylor wrote:

> > > "Carol I Rege al Romaniei" > >=20 > > "Carol I King of-the Romania-of" >=20 > I didn't know "the" could be used independently in Romanian.
I think only in archaic language in this sort of construction; IIRC that the article doesn't belong to the king, but to "Romania".
> > miluieSte-ne pe noi > > have.mercy-us upon us >=20 > Interesting. Would miluie=9Ate-ne be a proper sentence by itself?
Yes. "Lord, have mercy", however (the usual response to prayers) is _Doamne, miluieSte_ without the object pronoun (as it is in English).
> > The accusative is usually, perhaps always - my > > Romanian is as rusty as a medieval nail and the book is behind my > > mother's legacy) - expressed by _pe_ "on", so we can call it a > > separate case, I think. >=20 > I think I've read that it's use is similar to Spanish "a personal", that > is, used only with certain nouns (I think the restriction is also > "human", but I'm not sure.)
I think you're right; _am v@zut c=EEinele_ "I've seen the dog" but _l-am v@zut pe Ion_ "I've seen John" (note the clitic before the auxiliary; also seems to be restricted to human objects). Irina Varsinen an laynynay, saraz no arlet rastynay. (myself) (English) (Nederlands)