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Re: Case

From:Eldin Raigmore <eldin_raigmore@...>
Date:Monday, November 10, 2008, 22:30
On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:49:43 -0800, Campbell Nilsen
<cactus95@...> wrote:
>Right, right. But the instrumental is ONLY used in "by means of" >consttructions. This case is used for ONLY ONE[save prespositional] PURPOSE. >[snip]
You're wondering what to do with demoted agents, or rather, what to call what you do with them. Most nominative-accusative languages with passivization, in which the demoted agent may or must be explicit, put it in a case used for something else as well; instrumental, or perlative, or prolative, or prosecutive, or vialis, or ... Some, though, have a case that's used only for demoted agents. I think you're allowed to call it whatever you want. I vote for "demoted agent case". Some languages have one-or-more case(s) for Means, Methods, and Modes; those are good candidates. Others have one-or-more case(s) for Paths, especially "through" and/or "along"; those are also good. And some have a "maid-of-all-work" or "jack-of-all-trades" case (like "ablative" in many I-E languages); that's good, too. Do you want the case the demoted agents go in to also have another use, or not?


R A Brown <ray@...>