Re: Case
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Date: | Monday, July 12, 1999, 6:27 |
Dans un courrier dat=E9 du 12/07/99 03:26:39 , Nicole a =E9crit :
> >OK, to respond to my own post, I may have come up with a solution to my
> >problem, tell me if this sounds normal/possible. (The problem was, that
> >I liked have all those cases, but it just got to be a pain). Would it
> >sound possible for a language with a very extensive case system to have
> >some but not all cases change into adpositions, which required a case
> >all their own? Say, for instance, all my local cases were to detach
> >from the noun and become postpositions (of course, in this case, my
> >prepositional case would be postpositional...but anyway), and when a
> >noun was used with a postposition it required a postpositional case,
> >which had zero ending?
well, i'm not as quick as Henry and Jennifer
so i didn't understand this yet.
any example ? let's say your language is a rare conlang
so it's not an ergative one.
NOM, ACC =3D nominative, accusative cases
ONTO =3D ontosubstatillocative case
POST =3D postpositional case
(i)(a) is it like :
NOM-i put ACC-glass ONTO-table
NOM-i put ACC-glass POST-table onto
where do you put the adjective to "table" ?
(i)(b) or is it like :
i-NOM put glass-ACC table-ONTO
i-NOM put glass-ACC table-POST onto
but then if POST is -0 i can't see the difference
except if you put the adjective somewhere
after "table".
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(ii) or is it englishish like :
i put glass onto table =3D i put glass table onto
(iii) or is it germanisch? like :
NOM-i put ACC-glass onto ACC?/DAT?-table
NOM-i put ACC-glass (onto) ACC?/DAT?-table onto
(iv) or frenchish like :
jm=E9lv=E8rsurlatab'ok=E9 ?
(v) or SE-asian like :
me put glass top table
(vi) or dutch like :
i put er-daar glass on table er-on daar.
mathias