Re: narethanaal (or 'the ramblings of a deranged linguistics student')

--- Henrik Theiling froge sionk:
> Vasiliy Chernov <bc_@...> writes:
> > On Sun, 9 Dec 2001 15:12:52 -0800, nicole dobrowolski
> > <fuzzybluemonkeys@...> wrote:
> >
> ...
> > >everything- kube, nothing- nehkube
> >
> > It's lexicalized, I guess?
> >
> > I mean, 'not everything' is not immediately equivalent to
> 'nothing'...
>
> I had this problem in Tyl-Sjok, too.  It now has to negative
> markers.
> One for the negative, one for the opposite.  The negative is used
> by
> default, the opposite only when the situation allows it, or to make
> jokes.
>
>    te   - negation
>    se   - opposition
>
>    _Te  lit_
>     NEG large
>     not large
>
>    _Se  lit_
>     OPP large
>     small (rather `unlarge', there is a lexicalised word for
> `small', too)
>
> You can play with this, e.g. `John is not eating.' with the
> opposite
> marker. :-) (Maybe I'll put a new idiom into the lexicon...)
>
> So in the above, _neh_ corresponds to _se_, not to _te_.
>
ah... i see... if you wanted to say not everything you would use neh
as a separate word... neh kube... which might be hard to distinguish
when speaking out loud but there are similar examples of ambiguity in
english... 'i live next to a green house' and 'i live next to a
greenhouse' mean two different things... and i guess i wasn't so much
thinking of the opposite of everything or 'not everything' as i was
the actual negation of everything...
such as...
8+(-8)=0
everything + (-everything)=nothing
maybe i'm using the wrong word to describe this concept...?

...nicole

"No, but he certainly could kick the shit out of Captain Kirk.  And
you may quote me." -- Patrick Stewart on whether Professor X could
kick Capt. Jean-Luc Picard's butt

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