'Yemls aspect etc.
From: | Jeffrey S. Jones <jeffsjones@...> |
Date: | Monday, June 2, 2003, 19:55 |
Hi all,
ObChat: I don't know if I've mentioned it, but I was without a computer
for a while and could only read conlang occasionally at the library. By
the time I got a new (i.e. less old) computer, I was 6 weeks behind.
Good thing I had just gone back to nomail. Anyways ....
One thing I've been stuck on with 'Yemls has been the forms used in
"habitual" aspects. First, a review of what aspects I do have:
imperfective, perfective, resultive (i.e. "perfect") for action roots,
and something that's either inceptive or evolutive for state roots (this
is another thing I have to work on). So far, each of these refers only
to a single event, process, or state.
Note: because the 'Yemls syllabary (the stuff in { }'s) is hard to read
(even Christophe has said so, and he should know), I'm using an ad hoc
transcription in | |'s: |c| is [t_S_h].
The forms are using {SER} "sing" as an example:
{SER} |'sae.la| -- imperfective present "is singing"
{SER-f} |'sae.lof| -- imperfective past "was singing"
{SER-c} |'sae.lac| -- imperfective future "will be singing"
{SER-q} |'sae.lok| -- imperfective irrealis "be singing"
{SERf} |sae'lof| -- perfective past "sang"
{SERc} |sae'lac| -- perfective future "will sing"
{SERq} |sae'lok| -- perfective irrealis "sing"
{SERr} |sae'lor| -- resultive present "has sung"
{SERrf} |sae'lor.fu| -- resultive past "had sung"
{SERrc} |sae'lor.ci| -- resultive future "will have sung"
{SERrq} |sae'lor.ku| -- resultive irrealis "have sung"
The imperfective and resultive past, future, and irrealis are always in
reference to some specific time. The English versions are approximate.
OK, now for the problem. I want to have distinct forms for habitual
situations (by that I mean multiple repetitions of an action not limited
to a single time), and I want both imperfective and perfective versions
(maybe also resultive), that is, I want to take the series of events
distributed across time and treat them as a single situation, and then
apply aspect/tense/mood to that. Clear? No???
Ahem. I have a marker {m} reserved for this. Oh, and I also want a
tenseless form (which is what unmarked "nouns" have).
Some possible forms are:
{SER-m} |'sae.lom|
{SER-mf} |'sae.lo.muf|
{SER-mc} |'sae.lo.muc|
{SER-mq} |'sae.lo.muk|
{SERm} |sae'lom|
{SERmf} |sae'lo.mu.fu|
{SERmc} |sae'lo.mu.ci|
{SERmq} |sae'lo.mu.ku|
{SER'mf} |sae.lo'muf|
{SER'mc} |sae.lo'muc|
{SER'mq} |sae.lo'muk|
The last 3 are obviously the perfective forms. What I can't decide is
whether to use the 1st 4 as the imperfective forms and the next as the
tenseless form, or the 2nd 4 as the imperfective forms and the 1st form
as tenseless.
Now I wonder who's read this far (assuming it's readable)?
Jeff Jones