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Re: Idoru

From:Andreas Johansson <and_yo@...>
Date:Monday, March 11, 2002, 9:37
Tim May wrote:
> > >It's not impossible. > > > > That's why I wrote "unlikely". Am I wrecking havoc with English >semantics > > again? > > >No, I'm just being vague, I guess. I wasn't implying that you'd said >it was impossible, I was just ruling out the possibility that it was >impossible, which is left undefined by "unlikely". Reducing the range >of possibilities covered from the other direction, and thus shifting >the center value upwards. :)
Ok.
> > > >I don't know if you've read the book or not, but the term idoru refers > > >essentially to artificial, computer generated aidoru (although the > > >term aidoru is not used in the text). There has been at least one > > >such in reality (http://www.wdirewolff.com/jkyoko.htm), which no doubt > > >inspired Gibson. Possibly idoru is a contraction of e-aidoru (the > > >prefix e-, for electronic, being popular in '90s English product > > >names, although I'm not aware of its use in Japanese). > > > > Have read the book - that's why I'm asking! There are a number of > > "e-aidoru"s to be found nowadays. > >Well, it defines it as 'idol-singers' in chapter 6, (page 44 of my >copy) which would seem to make the derivation from 'idol' self >evident, although perhaps not the route...
I read an Swedish translation, in which "idol-singer" evidently got translated as "ikonsångare" (sixth letter is a-ring), which rather means "icon-singer".
>Incidentally, if it is an >error, it's exactly the same error as made on the audio book - he >pronounced it 'hanaiwa'. But that was some time ago, and you'd expect >him to know enough about Japan by now to get the vowels right. > >Have you read "Virtual light" and "All Tomorrow's Parties", which make >a trilogy with "Idoru"?
Virtual Light but not All Tomorrow's Parties. Will look for it next time I'm at the library (probably = today). Andreas _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com