Re: YAC: Widse -- a conlang based on Ygyde

On Friday 31 January 2003 5:22 pm, Lars Henrik Mathiesen wrote:
> > Date:         Wed, 29 Jan 2003 17:44:57 +0000
> > From: Andreas Johansson <and_yo@...>
> >
> > Do you mean "alveolar fricative"? If so, I don't know. Alveolar stops are
> > [t] or [d] - their default PoA is alveolar according to my IPA chart. In
> > close transcription they should get a diacritic when representing
> > dentals.
>
> [t] and [d] are in the middle of a box covering the dental, alveolar
> and postalveolar POAs. But let's assume that their range is actually
> restricted to alveolar when the context is a close transcription. How
> about postalveolar? [t_-]?
>
> However, [D] and even /D/ are specifically dental on the IPA chart,
> contrasting with the alveolar sibilant fricative /z/. That's OK for
> loose or phonemic transcription, since I can't imagine a language with
> a dental/alveolar contrast in plain fricatives. But I want an alveolar
> diacritic for close work.
>
> (A wild thought: perhaps the reason that /D/ is alveolar in Danish is
> that there's no /z/ --- otherwise /D/ might tend to be dental to keep
> the two better apart).
If there's no /z/, and it's alveolar, wouldn't it be better transcribed as
/z/, not /D/.  Also, English has an alveolar/dental/postalveolar
distinction(/s/, /T/ and /S/)

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