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Re: YAC: Widse -- a conlang based on Ygyde

From:Tristan <kesuari@...>
Date:Wednesday, January 29, 2003, 3:51
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t'Tue, 28 Jan 2003 13:55:03 +0100
Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...> bsaidsiem:

(bsa-Idsiem /feim/ is the past tense of dsiem /ji~:/, meaning 'to
write'. The derive from 'eba idyme' and 'idyme', respectively.)

 > Hey, I have a language called O, so what's the problem? ;))))))) And
 > there's at least one language called E, as seen in the Ethnologue:
 > http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=EEE :)))) .

Because I like the name Widse! It's very descriptive in English!

 > Or make new Ygyde compounds scraping the limitation in number of
 > syllables, allowing you more clusters when you use your knifes ;)))) .

But I mean, take a look at 'ida o ilu'.* It becomes 'dsoilu' /v\y/ (if
that isn't a wasteful orthography, I don't know what is). Now, if we add
rolosofimabelaka to the end, so we have 'ida o ilurolosofimabelaka',
this would end up becoming something like /De:s`o~:foug/ or
/Te:Cr\`o~:fouk/, partly because I enjoy metathesis, but mainly because
I've already have too many rules from the creation of words like Jaug,
iIjaug and Mefe and the pronouns.  (And yes, I had considered the
delete-interconsonantal-high-vowels rule.)

* The I's may or may not be Y's. It doesn't matter; they behave
identically. Any language stupid enough to distinguish /I/ and /i/ by
nothing more than the fact that one's [I] and the other [i] gets only
what it deserves, and Ygyde is stupid enough to do that.

Anyway, a creole means I can have not one, not two, but fourty-five
thousand, three hundred and sixty-nine different -ough-like things
floating around my language. (At least. If I get a trapezoidal  tuit.
Round tuits just don't cut it any more.)

 > > Thanks. And of course Maggel is plausible: haven't you seen the
 > > awful(or maybe just aweful) things some natlangs do to themselves??
 >
 > True enough. I always think of Tibetan for instance ;))) .

Oh? What's so special about Tibetan?

 > I long to see a natlang ten times as bad as Maggel ;))))))) .

Okay, maybe the rule is 'Anything you can think up, some natlang out
there's already thought of and done it ten-times worse or ten natlangs
have thought it up and done it much the same as you'. Or maybe they're
just pre-historic languages. Who knows, maybe the Japanese invent a time
machine and go back in time and spread their language and Pre-Nostratic
is really some deviant form of Japanese?

Tristan.


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Danny Wier <dawier@...>
John Cowan <jcowan@...>
Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Peter Bleackley <peter.bleackley@...>