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Re: PLUG: SpecGram Current Issue

From:Lars Finsen <lars.finsen@...>
Date:Saturday, March 3, 2007, 17:59
Den 3. mar. 2007 kl. 02.30 skrev Dirk Elzinga:
> > Some Uto-Aztecan languages show regular suppletion of verb forms based > on the number of the subject for intransitives or for the number of > the object for transitives; it is thus an ergative pattern. Some > examples from Shoshoni: nukki 'run (sg.subj)' ~ nuraa 'run (pl.subj)'; > paikka 'kill (sg.obj)' ~ wase 'kill (pl.obj)' . The form alternations > themselves are unpredictable (else it wouldn't be suppletion), but it > is a regular feature of the language (at least for the several dozen > verbs it applies to). > > Verb suppletion was probably a feature of Proto-Uto-Aztecan, though > many (if not most) of the Southern Uto-Aztecan langauges have lost it. > However, in Tepiman verbal number agreement is still ergatively > aligned. In Tohono O'odham, a Tepiman language spoken on the > Arizona/Mexico border, number agreement is marked by initial > reduplication. Again, for intransitive verbs verbal number agrees with > the subject, but for transitives it agrees with the number of the > object: cipkan 'work (sg.subj)' ~ cicpkan 'work (pl.subj)' ; ceposid > 'brand (sg.obj)' ~ cecposid 'brand (pl.obj)'.
I am fascinated. But I'm not sure that I understand quite how it works. Do these languages have explicit subjects and objects, so that the verb takes different forms solely to agree with the subject or object respectively? Can you provide example sentences? I am thinking a little about agreement these days. It does to me often seem redundant. And I have only vestiges of it in my languages. But redundancy itself can have an important function in communication. And I think agreement can give more freedom in the structure of a sentence. I am thinking of introducing some form of adjectival agreement in Gaajan, either in the late form, or maybe only in earlier stages. LEF

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Dirk Elzinga <dirk.elzinga@...>