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Re: Haceks and letters with ascenders

From:Dirk Elzinga <dirk_elzinga@...>
Date:Friday, March 7, 2003, 16:40
At 10:42 PM -0500 3/5/03, Herman Miller wrote:
>My latest language, Lindiga, uses haceks (or carons) to indicate retroflex >sounds. I originally had dots under the letters, but they were hard to read >when underlined, and required special fonts to work on web pages. The >problem now is that the apostrophes after the letter, which replace the >hacek with letters that have ascenders, can run into a grave accent on the >following letter, as in the word {pel^i`na} "jelly doughnut". (You can see >what this looks like at the bottom of the preliminary, already outdated >Lindiga page at http://www.io.com/~hmiller/lang/Lindiga/index.html). > >So I thought it might be better to use the v-shaped form of the hacek even >with ascenders, and I even redid the text on the color chart (which is at >http://www.io.com/~hmiller/png/lindiga-colors.png). But in some ways I >think it looks worse that way. The problem is that I have a lot of >retroflex sounds, and I can't find any other diacritic that would work >without requiring special fonts ... cedilla doesn't work with {d} or {z}. > >I suppose I could find a better alphabet, or create one, but if I'm going >to use the Latin alphabet, it looks like my options are limited. So either >I go back to using the dots, or continue using the haceks and figure out >some other way to deal with the vowels. Alternatively, looking at how >Latvian solves its "g with cedilla" problem (printing it as a turned comma >_above_ the lower case g), it might be interesting to try printing the >hacek _under_ the letter if it has a descender. That would still require a >special font, but at least it would be readable with the standard fonts....
The retroflex series could be represented with the symbols for the corresponding alveolar consonants following an <r>: [t`] -> <rt> [d`] -> <rd> [n`] -> <rn> etc. This is how many of the orthographies are set up for the Australian languages. But then, not everyone is open-minded enough to follow the digraph path :-). Dirk -- Dirk Elzinga Dirk_Elzinga@byu.edu "It is important not to let one's aesthetics interfere with the appreciation of fact." - Stephen Anderson

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