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Re: Typologic survey, part II

From:Dan Sulani <dnsulani@...>
Date:Thursday, February 1, 2001, 8:10
>---- PART II Conlang Typlogic Survey 2001 ----
>House-keeping data
>Name of the participating conlang:
rtemmu
>2: Order of genitive (G), and noun (N) >That is: Possessor/owner and possession/owned thing
Basically: Possessor followed by possession. If either -xere or -sere is suffixed to a content word (denoting a process) then the following content word (also denoting a process) is considered to be in a "possessed" relation with the first word. -xere means to have in the sense of physical possession. -sere means to have, in the sense that something is attributed to someone due to creation or discovery. What it actually means for a process to possess another process is not extremely clear to me. But FWIW, this is how the lang expresses it. Examples: na itihkxere zuv gr`v = my hand (subjective-normal-change 1st-sing+xere objective-not-noticibly-changing hand) na itihksere no bla`'enmu = my theory (that I came up with) (subjective-normal-change 1st-sing+sere subjective-slow-change theory) but "na itihkxere no bla`'enmu" (use of -xere) for "my theory", meaning that I am currently holding to a theory originated by someone else.
>3: Order of adjective (A) and noun (N) >Does the language have a closed class of adjectives?
No.
>If there is not a separate open adjective-class, what type of words do >the work of adjectives, verbs or nouns?
If you want to, you could say that rtemmu has a "noun- adjective" ( also "verb-adverb") order. But there are no nouns, verbs, adjectives or adverbs in rtemmu as such. All (content) words stand for processes. A comment modifies the word it follows, be it the sentence topic or another comment.
>Can they take a copula (that is: need/don't need equivalent of "to be")?
To assert that something _is_ a certain way, rtemmu puts the word "auag" or "auzhil" between the topic and the (first) comment word. ("au-" is the imperative, "ag" is a conjuntion meaning to join two items without regard to "real-time" process-development; "zhil" is a conjunction meaning to join two items, taking account of "real-time" development of the first item until the second is joined with it in the listener's mind.) For example: inana itihksere no bla`'enmu auag nu wya`ka`k! = My theory is correct! or inana itihksere no bla`'enmu auzhil nu wya`ka`k! = My theory is correct! ina = speaker subjectively considers at a normal rate nu = the correctness is changing (subjectively) too slow to notice (ie, I have no doubts as to what "correct" means) wya`ka`k = correct ---- END part II ---- Dan Sulani -------------------------------------------------------------------- likehsna rtem zuv tikuhnuh auag inuvuz vaka'a. A word is an awesome thing.