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Re: Poetic translation (was: ULT)

From:taliesin the storyteller <taliesin@...>
Date:Thursday, June 3, 1999, 17:41
*slaps forehead and sighs* I knew I had forgotten something...

This 'un can easily be 'generalized', as soon as I discover the word for=20
"general"... (not the military title)

r'eged'   xvu     u:es
1s."fart" towards 2s.LOC

<xvu> covers things like approach, move in on, move towards, move to...=20
It will probably be worn down to something a bit less obviously a move-
ment verb... Time Will Show[1]

But I like this one also...

r'eged'   u:'s
1s."fart" 2s-wards

[1] This has some connotations quite localized to Norway I think...=20
Swedes: have any of you seen "Fl=E5klypa Grand Prix"? Any Danes?

* taliesin (taliesin@nuts.edu) [990531 01:31]:
> * Boudewijn Rempt (bsarempt@rempt.xs4all.nl) [990530 22:14]: > > On Sun, 30 May 1999, John Cowan wrote: > >=20 > > > BP Jonsson scripsit: > > >=20 > > > > Tiel fartas la Shvedigho de Blake! :-) > > >=20 > > > Or as they say in Esperanto versions of Monty Python, > > > "Mi farcis in tia direkciono generala!" > > >=20 > >=20 > > Denden: > >=20 > > Sero hohoch.zi.yaya tan e.yai loh=E9'yi nech.zi! > > 1sHGH shit.AUG.DSP TAN poss.2sLGH direction.DIM wind.AUG >=20 > Which of these is the best translation to ta:ruven I wonder: >=20 > r'eged' u:es > 1s."fart" 2s-LOC >=20 > r'eged' u:es k'e=ECesru OR r'eged' k'e=ECesru u:es > 1s."fart" 2s-LOC direction-LOC1 >=20 > r'eged' u:ev k'e=ECese=F0 OR r'eged' k'e=ECese=F0 u:ev > 1s."fart" 2s-GEN1 direction-GEN >=20 > r'eged' u:'s > 1s."fart" 2s-wards >=20 > 1s =3D 1st person singular > 2s =3D 2nd person singular > LOC =3D general location, placed ON the location > LOC1 =3D placed on the 'locatee' > GEN =3D inanimate genitive, placed on the 'owned' item > GEN1 =3D inanimate genitive, placed on the 'owner' of the item >=20 > Perhaps <r'eged'> `fart, shit, piss, sweat...' should be emphasized... >=20 > =EFr'eged' ... > "i FART ..." >=20 > I don't know how to emphasize the "general" yet, as <=EF-> can only pre=
fix stems and not affixes like <-es> and <-'s>. (If one wanted to be spec= ific, one wouldn't use <-es>.)
>=20 > (To ease the word-order even further, add <sa:> `1s' anywhere.) >=20 > Decisions, decisions :) >=20 >=20 > tal.=20