Re: [YAEUT] Lexical variation survey

On 05/05/08 22:02:39, John Vertical wrote:

>
> Soda for anything sweeten'd, with cola (dark-colored, multi-flavor
> mixture)
> and lemonade (light-colored, fruit-flavor'd) as its two main
> subgroups. Cold
> drink and fizzy drink would be understood to include non-sweeten'd
> drinks as
> well. Tonic applies only to those mix'd with alcoholic beverages. I
> would,
> in addition, recognize "orangeade" and similar terms for specific
> flavors.
Strange then, that (normal, clear) lemonade isn't a kind of lemonade in
your classification. Though a check of the Wikipedia article makes it
unclear what anyone else would consider proper lemonade, or indeed
whether it's fruit-flavored or not --- but it doesn't taste like any
fruit I've ever had. I'm bemused that anyone would consider Sprite or
7-Up to be lemon-lime; that description brings to mind lemon-line Sola.
Lemon-flavored soft drinks are "traditional lemonade", "lemon-lemonade"
or "lemon squash"; other fruit-flavored drinks would be "(fruitname)"
or "(fruitname)-flavored soft drink", depending on whether it's clear.
i.e. you could ask for a bottle of raspberry and get a bottle of
raspberry-flavored soft drink with no confusion.

And on 05/05/08 22:16:28, Mark J. Reed wrote:
>
> IML the "toilet" is the thing you sit on (a.ka. the "commode", which
> I've always considered a coarser word), not the room it's in, which
> is
> the bathroom or - when there's no bath, as in public facilities - the
> restroom.  Even when there's a door between the bath and the toilet,
> IME, it's on the order of a closet door - not enough to warrant
> consideration as a separate room.
My current house probably has a toilet of the sort your thinking of.
But most houses in Australia would have a fully separate room. After
going to the loo, you would need to open the door, walk into the hall,
turn and enter another room (which may have its door closed) before you
can wash your hands. Of course, the room itself barely has a name;
there's rarely any occasion when one would want to refer to the toilet
separately from the room or the room separately from the toilet, and
context wouldn't clarify.

--
Tristan.