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Re: Regularized Inglish

From:John Cowan <cowan@...>
Date:Wednesday, September 29, 1999, 14:13
Nik Taylor scripsit:

> > and their can be up to 8 spellings for a sound > > Is this a typo, or does he not distinguish between "there", "their", and > "they're"?
I'm not shure.
> > "calf" becomes either "caaf" or "caff", reflecting a genuinely fonemic > > difference between the dialect groops. > > Hmm, so he would further seperate the two dialect groups?
Not really. We already hav all the useless distinctions between "-our"/"-or" and "-er"/"-re", whare American spelling basically collapsed a distinction that British spelling continues to make; contrariwise with "-ize"/"ise", whare it is American spelling that preserves the distinction. At least "laff"/"laaf" iz useful.
> > A few symbols represent more than wun sound: notably, "oo" can be > > eether /u/ or /U/, a distinction of low fonemic load in Inglish. > > True, but they're still seperate phonemes, it seems to me that there > should be a distinction between any two phonemes. Afterall, there's > very little phonemic load between /T/ and /D/ in English, why not make > no distinction between them?
My version of Wijk duz not in fact make enny distinction between /T/ and /D/. He admits that he duz so solely to help the non-nativ learner; the nativ speaker will aulmost never be in dout. In addition, though everywun admits that /U/ and /u/ are distinct, thare is much fluctuation in particular wurds such as "roof", "coop", etc., so that preserving the existing ambiguity iz actually useful.
> > Likewise, the traditional alternation > > between /g/ and /dZ/ for "g", and /k/ and /s/ for "c", depending on > > the folloeing vauel, is basically preserved. > > Interesting, so how does he represent /gIv/?
"Giv". There aar about 20 wurds that have /g/ written "g" before "i" or "e", and raather than introducing a new rule for them, he simply leaves them az anomalies. These include "get", "give", "girl", and a few uthers. Wun coud, I suppose, use "ghet", "ghive", "ghirl" instead, but in Wijk's system "gh" appears only as part of "igh", "ough", etc. and is aulwayz silent. "Ghost" simply becums "gost".
> > On the uther hand, > > "s" pronounced /z/ is chainged to "z" except in the plural and > > third person singular endings, which aar left entirely alone. > > Then why the spelling {iz}?
Doo yoo really think of "is" as a verb stem "i-" followed by a 3sg ending? I shure don't, despite the etymology. -- John Cowan cowan@ccil.org I am a member of a civilization. --David Brin