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Re: Cantonal spelling, take 2

From:Adam Walker <dreamertwo@...>
Date:Friday, September 28, 2001, 8:39
>From: John Cowan <cowan@...> >Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 00:51:22 -0400 >More text: > >Sigzihk gorrzahrn sirr, yahww yadgor yahn, zeukzuehr yadgihrn >nuehnn'neuhnnker ceuhngpoww haih gor suer ginggwor. Keuhyy >leuhnng'gor zahw cihngyuenn lahp yeuk, yueh'gworr bin'gor >yahww bunnsihr nahng sin sayydag gorrgor yahn ceuihzorr keuhyy gorrgihrn >poww, zahw suern bingorger bunnsihr taahy. >
Goodness. That's Cantonese? If I'd just glanced at it without what went before I'd've thought it was Graavgaaln, one of my conlangs. My mind *insists* on interpreting "rr" as a trill especially in the middle of words. I read /sIg.zIx gOr.zaRn sir, ja.u: jad.gOR ja:n, zoek.zu.ER jad.gIRn/ and so on. I used "r" to represent a trill and "R" to represent an American English "r".
>I am still not happy with -rr, which is what regularity demands; it is >one thing to interpret r as a silent tonal letter, quite another to >interpret rr that way, somehow. >
I have great difficulty accepting ANY final consonant except "h" as any thing other than a phonetic symbol. That's one of the main reasons that lovely idea inwhich I used tonal spelling got chunked by the wayside. I couldn't accept "ab" as being anything other than /ab/ or /&b/ or somesuch. Adam
>-- >John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowan cowan@ccil.org >Please leave your values | Check your assumptions. In fact, > at the front desk. | check your assumptions at the >door. > --sign in Paris hotel | --Miles Vorkosigan
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