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Re: Portuguese (Was: French)

From:Paul Kershaw <ptkershaw@...>
Date:Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 16:35
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> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 22:58, Andreas Johansson wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Roger Mills wrote: > >> > >> /sT/ OTOH can occur at morpheme boundary (rare) e.g. in "sixth" /sIks+T/ > which I pronounce with an intervening stop between the s and the T [sIks(t)T]. > > > > Would this intervening stop also appear in "aesthete", where the /s/ > > and /T/ are in different syllables? > > And what about "calisthenics"? (Also a syllable boundary, and also not > -- etymologically, at least -- a morpheme boundary; from "σθένος" > [sthenos] IIRC.) > > Cheers, > -- > Philip Newton
Personally, I don't have the fricative /θ/ (is that what's meant by /T/?) in <aesthete> or <calisthenics>, I only have the stop /t/. I say (using IPA): /sɪksθ/, /ə'stit/, and /"kæ.lə'stε.nɪks/. /sɪksθ/ -> [sɪkstθ] in careful speech, but oddly I consider [sɪksθ] (casual speech) to be correct. Likewise, /fɪfθ/ (<fifth>) -> [fɪftθ] carefully and [fɪfθ] casually, with the casual being "the right way" for me. Weird. :D -- Paul

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