Re: Portuguese (Was: French)
From: | Paul Kershaw <ptkershaw@...> |
Date: | Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 15:58 |
----- Original Message ----
> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 22:58, Andreas Johansson wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Roger Mills wrote:
> >>
> >> /sT/ OTOH can occur at morpheme boundary (rare) e.g. in "sixth" /sIks+T/
> which I pronounce with an intervening stop between the s and the T [sIks(t)T].
> >
> > Would this intervening stop also appear in "aesthete", where the /s/
> > and /T/ are in different syllables?
>
> And what about "calisthenics"? (Also a syllable boundary, and also not
> -- etymologically, at least -- a morpheme boundary; from "σθένος"
> [sthenos] IIRC.)
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Philip Newton
Personally, I don't have the fricative /θ/ (assuming that what's meant by /T/) in
<aesthete> or <calisthenics>, I only have the stop /t/. I say (using IPA):
/sɪksθ/, /ə'stit/, and /"kæ.lə'stε.nɪks/. /sɪksθ/ -> [sɪkstθ] in
careful speech, but oddly I consider [sɪksθ] (casual speech) to be correct.
Likewise, /fɪfθ/ (<fifth>) -> [fɪftθ] carefully and [fɪfθ] casually, with
the casual being "the right way" for me. Weird. :D
/s/ has a tendency for me to jump the morpheme barrier in <misthread>, though, and
I can't say [mɪ'stθrεd] at all. It's [mɪs'θrεd] (careful) or
[mɪ'sθrεd] (casual) for me.
-- Paul