Re: A Charyan Brothel Song in Teonaht

Boudewijn,

Would a very short dissertation on the use of TAN in DenDen be
possible?  That morpheme troubled me as I worked through the piece
with Sally's glossary, and I'm afraid the interlinear isn't helping me
much.  Otherwise, as you said, the grammar was very easy to pick up.


Ed Heil -------------------------------- edheil@postmark.net

> lamay-neran.men
> song-stroll.AMA
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>    The amatory attitudinal qualifier <-men> is necessary because
>    of the tender relations between singer and the person sung-to
>    (why isn't there something in English I can use to translate
>    'bezongene' with?)
> I
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> E.do    qoi.qoi       s=FCmzi neran.an.men
> poss.1s finger.finger tipsy stroll.DELIM.AMA
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>    There exists a separate set of pronouns for use between lovers.
>    Since that set is not used here, the relationship between the
>    the 'I' of the song and 'you', must take place in a brothel -
>    of course, Issytra Seppelnarmyeeb is spot on in her assumption that
>    that doesn't mean that the patron doesn't love the courtesan.
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> S=FCs=FC-=FC.men      e.di    hod'atahl par
> shake.DELIM.AMA poss.2s head'fore over
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> Matan     e.di    heril h=E9ya.ya.men
> alognside poss.2s braid glide.DELIM.AMA
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> W=FCwish e.di    y=E9.yi'zu,      tirme'ar=20
> dance  poss.2s dimple.DIM'LOC neck'LOC
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> II
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> Sung.men e.di    teal     ar, damba.zi
> rest.AMA poss.2s shoulder LOC weight.AUG
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> Yuanei   tiran e.di    yanang.dir tan
> pleasure grasp poss.1s breast.pl  TAN
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> E.do    nahak hya    tan sunane
> poss.1s penis smooth TAN saunter
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>   _nahak_ is common word, but not coarse - neither is it refined,
>   Charyans would use paraphrases and metaphors to achieve a refined
>   effect. The same holds for _yenu_, below.
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> Nuy.nuy   nanlan bin.y     ar  anyalan=20
> quick.DUP run    belly.DIM LOC navel
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> III
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> Mo   dulane, qoi.qoi       dena    altah
> then waver   finger.finger stammer long_for
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> Raygin     penne tan naina  tupa
> wheatfield dive  TAN nestle suddenly
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>   wheatfields, grain, cornstalks, are all very common similes.
>   Another poem that makes use of related imagery is at
>   http://www.xs4all.nl/~bsarempt/andal/literature/raygin.html.
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> IV
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> Xoxo  bernus musa   yaraush, bajan.hau
> shake hill   stream lavish   come.IMP
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> E.di    yenu nanah       drai'xux,  bajan.hau
> poss.2s cunt turn_around girl'lusty come.IMP
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>   Noteworthy in the last two lines is the variance in interpretation
>   between myself and Issytra Seppelnarmyeeb. In Denden, and certainly
>   in Denden poetry, it is possible that suffixes like the imperative
>   <-hau> IMP apply to all verbs in the phrase. It is equally possible
>   to interpret the imperative as only applying to the verb it is
>   actually affixed to. Both interpretations are valid.
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> Notes
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> [1] The linguistic situation of Andal is very complex. There are a numb=
er
> of vernacular dialects, like Northern Colloquial (which was the languag=
e
> of the song 'Xipu, Manxuri Penerar', previously presented here). A
> common language understood throughout the empire developed out of these
> vernacular dialects together with important influences from the classic=
al
> language - this language was Denden. From a linguistic point of view,
> describing Denden poses its own difficulties: for instance it cannot
> rightly be said to possess a phonology, since every speaker used
> the pronounciation he was used to from his mother tongue. See also:
> http://www.xs4all.nl/~bsarempt/andal/languages/charyan_languages.html.
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> References
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> Rempt, Boudewijn. 1998. _Tiscim_.
> http://www.xs4all.nl/~bsarempt/andal/literature/tiscim.html
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> Rempt, Boudewijn, 1999. _Sexual life in Charya_.
>
http://www.xs4all.nl/~bsarempt/andal/peoples_and_places/charya/sexuality.=
html
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> Yundia. 1991. _Brahir Laqa canun tan ryabay. Duizend liedjes voor tusse=
n
> de graanhalmen. Chariaanse liefdesliedjes en bordeelzangen. Verzameld
> door Manein lua Radauq', Editions Planteur, Haarlem
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>     (The entire collection has been published in Denden:
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>     http://www.xs4all.nl/~bsarempt/andal/languages/corpus/denden.html
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>     and partly in Dutch:=20
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>     http://www.xs4all.nl/~bsarempt/andal/literature/graanhalmen.html)
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> Boudewijn Rempt  | http://www.xs4all.nl/~bsarempt
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