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USAGE: "gotten" (was: Latin) verb examples and tense meanings

From:John Cowan <jcowan@...>
Date:Thursday, January 20, 2000, 16:36
Nik Taylor wrote:
> > Raymond Brown wrote: > > another, much as I say 'have got' and, I guess, Nik says 'have gotten'. > > I use both, actually.
As do all Americans, a point frequently muddled by English authors in their attempts to represent American English. They make their poor characters commit things like *"He hasn't gotten any sense", which can only mean "He hasn't *acquired* any sense", which is nonsense! The natural expression is "He hasn't got any sense"; "He hasn't any sense" seems a bit odd here. Sometimes the two are in minimal contrast. "He hasn't got any money" means he is poor; "He hasn't gotten any money" means none has arrived from the source in question. -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis vom dies! || John Cowan <jcowan@...> Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau, || Und trank die Milch vom Paradies. -- Coleridge (tr. Politzer)