USAGE: "gotten" (was: Latin) verb examples and tense meanings

Nik Taylor wrote:
>
> Raymond Brown wrote:
> > another, much as I say 'have got' and, I guess, Nik says 'have gotten'.
>
> I use both, actually.
As do all Americans, a point frequently muddled by English authors
in their attempts to represent American English.   They make their
poor characters commit things like *"He hasn't gotten any sense", which
can only mean "He hasn't *acquired* any sense", which is nonsense!
The natural expression is "He hasn't got any sense"; "He hasn't any sense"
seems a bit odd here.

Sometimes the two are in minimal contrast.  "He hasn't got any money"
means he is poor; "He hasn't gotten any money" means none has arrived
from the source in question.

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