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Re: USAGE: "gotten" (was: Latin) verb examples and tense meanings

From:Padraic Brown <pbrown@...>
Date:Thursday, January 20, 2000, 19:15
On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, John Cowan wrote:
>As do all Americans, a point frequently muddled by English authors >in their attempts to represent American English. They make their >poor characters commit things like *"He hasn't gotten any sense", which >can only mean "He hasn't *acquired* any sense", which is nonsense!
Hardly nonsense! Take a 30 year old who is constantly getting himself into trouble and who ought to know better: he certainly hasn't gotten any sense yet! Certainly nonsense with the meaning or intention of "he has no sense". Padraic.
>The natural expression is "He hasn't got any sense"; "He hasn't any sense" >seems a bit odd here. > >Sometimes the two are in minimal contrast. "He hasn't got any money" >means he is poor; "He hasn't gotten any money" means none has arrived >from the source in question. > >-- > >Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis vom dies! || John Cowan <jcowan@...> >Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.com >Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau, || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan >Und trank die Milch vom Paradies. -- Coleridge (tr. Politzer) >