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Re: representing back unrounded vowels in X-Sampa

From:Benct Philip Jonsson <bpj@...>
Date:Sunday, January 18, 2004, 0:50
At 20:18 17.1.2004, Joe wrote:

>But you can't say with any confidence 'it used to be'. Nothing ever >changes universally, to the same sound.
It has nothing to do with universal tendencies of language change, but with the way Sweet described the sound in these English words a hundred years ago versus what phoneticians observe in the same words today.
> In my ideolect, it's definitely >not [6], which sounds far too [a]-ish. I think it's definitely either >[3] or [V], probably the latter.
Most RP speakers' /V/ sounds very [a]-ish to me. Much more so than Americans'/V/s, or Korean /V/, which latter definitely is different from both the RP and the US sounds. /BP 8^) -- B.Philip Jonsson mailto:melrochX@melroch.se (delete X) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~__ A h-ammen ledin i phith! \ \ __ ____ ____ _____________ ____ __ __ __ / / \ \/___ \\__ \ /___ _____/\ \\__ \\ \ \ \\ \ / / / / / / / \ / /Melroch\ \_/ // / / // / / / / /___/ /_ / /\ \ / /'Aestan ~\_ // /__/ // /__/ / /_________//_/ \_\/ /Eowine __ / / \___/\_\\___/\_\ Gwaedhvenn Angeliniel\ \______/ /a/ /_h-adar Merthol naun ~~~~~~~~~Kuinondil~~~\________/~~\__/~~~Noolendur~~~~~~ || Lenda lenda pellalenda pellatellenda kuivie aiya! || "A coincidence, as we say in Middle-Earth" (JRR Tolkien)

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