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Re: tlhn'ks't, ngghlyam'ft, and other scary words

From:Steg Belsky <draqonfayir@...>
Date:Thursday, February 6, 2003, 0:16
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 06:56:21 -0600 Danny Wier <dawier@...> writes:
> Outside of Germanic, some languages to note: > Hindi: i I e ae (rI) @ a u U o O (10 or 11) > Hungarian: i e (E) ae y o/ a u o Q (10 or 11) > Hebrew: i I e E @ a u U o O A (11)
- (Biblical, like your list) Hebrew also has the ultrashort 'hhatafim', ultrashort [E] [a] and [O]. There may also have been some kind of distinction between phonemic 'hholam-hhaseir', [o]? < Semitic /u/ and 'hholam-malei', [o:]? < Semitic /aw/ and /a:/.
> Vietnamese: i e E ae a M G V u o O (11) *what's SAMPA for "baby > gamma"? > Korean: i e ae y o/ 1 @ a u o (10) > Hindi and Hebrew are different in that they don't have an > "Umlaut"-type system of fronting and backing.
- According to an analysis of Biblical Hebrew phonology i read by Gary Rendsburg, (if i understood it and remember it correctly) all the huge number of Hebrew vowels are pretty much just allophonic variations of the basic 6 Semitic vowels /a i u a: i: u:/. -Stephen (Steg) "i see wry beauty in guile represent, like, our vapid mind and lapse only on clever nefarious woman" ~ magnet poetry next door

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