Re: tlhn'ks't, ngghlyam'ft, and other scary words

 --- Danny Wier skrzypszy:

> | Danny Wier/Jan van S. wrote:
> |  Should
> | > > there be a word for a consonant cluster which involves flanking a
> | > > conjsonant with the same fricative on both sides? Tairezazhism?
> | >
> | > Similarly in Polish: _szczotka_ [StSOtka], _z'dzis£aw_ [z`dz`iswaf].
> | > (please don't pay to much attention to the X-SAMPA I wrote here)
> | >
> | Seems to me that such clusters could in theory be rather common with German
> | prefixed verbs-- auf+pf...  aus+z....  ver+Cr..., or un+kn....????
>
> I think those are considered part of two syllables.
Yes. If we were to count those, I could produce hundreds or thousands of cases
in any language I know. In Polish, we would get combinations like: "w-dw",
"d-zd", "d-wd", "ch-tch" [xtx], "£-k£" [wkw], "s-ps", etc., but I guess that
doesn't count.

> But you do have at lease one case of a word-initial /sts/: <Szene> "scene".
> I also remember the Solidarnos'c' (Solidarity) protests in Poland circa 1981
> (led by Lech Wal-e,sa, who would be President years later). Notice the final
> -s'c'; /ctc/ with c-curls. That in additon to /StS/, /zdz/ with z-curls, but
> no cases of /ZdZ/ unless I'm mistaken.
I would have to check that. There is only one word I can think of right now:
"droz.dz.e"
Would geminates count as well? In that case we get: "ssak" (mammal), "ww-" (I
can't think of a concrete example right now, but I know they exist). These are
pronounced separately. Same thing with the name "Anna".

Jan

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