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Re: tlhn'ks't, ngghlyam'ft, and other scary words

From:Danny Wier <dawier@...>
Date:Wednesday, February 5, 2003, 22:14
From: "Roger Mills" <romilly@...>

| Danny Wier/Jan van S. wrote:
|  Should
| > > there be a word for a consonant cluster which involves flanking a
| > > conjsonant with the same fricative on both sides? Tairezazhism?
| >
| > Similarly in Polish: _szczotka_ [StSOtka], _z'dzis£aw_ [z`dz`iswaf].
| > (please don't pay to much attention to the X-SAMPA I wrote here)
| >
| Seems to me that such clusters could in theory be rather common with German
| prefixed verbs-- auf+pf...  aus+z....  ver+Cr..., or un+kn....????

I think those are considered part of two syllables. But you do have at lease one
case of a word-initial /sts/: <Szene> "scene". I also remember the Solidarnos'c'
(Solidarity) protests in Poland circa 1981 (led by Lech Wal-e,sa, who would be
President years later). Notice the final -s'c'; /ctc/ with c-curls. That in
additon to /StS/, /zdz/ with z-curls, but no cases of /ZdZ/ unless I'm mistaken.

Shouldn't there be a /xkx/ or something in a Caucasian or North American
language somewhere?

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Jan van Steenbergen <ijzeren_jan@...>