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Re: CHAT: Nonstandard usage (was Natural language change(wasRe:Charlie and I))

From:Nik Taylor <fortytwo@...>
Date:Friday, October 1, 1999, 22:55
Eric Christopherson wrote:
> I forgot about <gotta>... I'm not sure, but I think I only use that in the > first and second persons usually, and then in a jocular sense. I would > otherwise say <-'ve got to> or <have/has to>.
Really?! That's quite interesting, because I don't think I EVER use "I've got to", except, perhaps, being very emphatic "I've GOT to go", and even then I think it's probably usually "I've GOTTa go", but most commonly just I gotta You gotta He's gotta We gotta Y'all gotta They gotta So, except in third person singular, it's only "gotta"
> Speaking of <to have got> and grammaticalization, many American children (at > least where I live) use <got> as if it were a simple present tense verb > synonymous with "have": I got, you got, he gots, she gots, we got, they got.
My ten-year-old (I think he's ten) cousin once asked me "Do you got any ...?"
> How do we classify <got> and <gotten> anyway? They obviously have different > usages in American English; is it possible they are both past participles? > Maybe <gotten> is the start of a whole new category :)
Nah, I don't think so. "Have got" is merely a lexical form which means "have", it's synchronically no more related to the past tense "got" than "lay" is to the past tense of "lie" (which is also "lay") -- Oh Lord, grant that we may always be right, for thou knowest we will never change our mind. - Scots Prayer ICQ: 18656696 AIM Screen-Name: NikTailor