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Re: Some Sound Changes

From:John Vertical <johnvertical@...>
Date:Tuesday, February 13, 2007, 14:45
>I just made a set of sound changes for yet another new project that I'd >like opinions on.
Do you have phonotactics? That would help here I think, but it seems it's (C)V(C) at least. Any original clusters? Or coda / onset prohibitions? Stress?
> 1. i, u > j, w / __ V i, u > j, w / V __
This seems a bit ambiguous wrt. /iu ui/. If the first rule takes precedence (so > /ju wi/) I'd think it were better to include the two rules as separate ones. You might also want to specify the 1st as applying right-to-left to avoid eg. /uiu/ > /wju/.
> 2. kw, gw, k_hw > k_w, g_w, k_w_h
I'd expect any uvular+w clusters to behave the same too, unless /q(h)uV/ doesn't originally occur in the first place 'fcors. I think almost all languages with both uvulars and labialized velars also have labialized uvulars.
> 3. V > Vj / __ Cj > V > Vw / __ C_w 5. ij, ej, aj, oj, uj > i, e, æ, ø, y > iw, ew, aw, ow, uw > ju, jo, Au, o, u
This looks a bit like it would be better analyzed as umlaut, tho /Vj Vw/ coming from /Vi Vu/ would complicate that. Also, if the /j/ duplicates across all consonants, why doesn't /w/ duplicate across non-velars too?
> 7. tj, dj > ts), dz) sj, zj > S, Z
....I take /t d/ are dental but /s z/ alveolar, then? Also, where does this /zj/ come from? Did you miss a step about /s/ voicing between a vowel and a semivowel too?
>10. c, J\, C > tS), dZ), S 11. hj, hw > C, x_w
A new /C/ drifting in just after the old one merged into /S/? Looks a bit unlikely to me... but an easy fix would be to switch the order of palatal breikdown and aspirate spirantization (i.e: ch > tSh > S)
>15. i, u > 0 / VC __ CV --- but not always
Any relation to stress or the nature of the consonants? IIRC /i u/ are more likely to be elided in the vicinity of unvoiced than voiced consonants, for example.
>Resulting Consonants > p [p] t [t] tc [tS)] k(j) [k_j] k [k] kw [k_w] b [b] d [d] dz >[dZ)] g(j) [g_j] g [g] gw [g_w] f [f] s [s] c [S] hj [C] x >[x] xw [x_w] q [X] h [h] z [Z] m [m] n [n] > nj [J] n [N] l [l] j [j] w >[w] r [r]
You forgot to include /z/ from /dz/, to specify /nj/ > /J/, and to get rid of initial /?/... otherwise, looking good. Now, it's nothing super awesome, but I can't see anything wrong in it in general, either. The evolution is a bit dependant on onset semivowel clusters, but that's not a problem. Hmm, a few practice words... weaqupho > weoffo antisima > ontrirmo (?) puakirwa > pwotSje:wo lethurios > lehi:jus lethuros > lehrus dongoresu > duNgworer Looks like you'll get a contrast between /kw k_w/ there too... or is the labialization rule meant to remain live? John Vertical _________________________________________________________________ Nyt löydät etsimäsi tiedot nopeasti niin koneeltasi kuin netistä. http://toolbar.msn.fi