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Re: Classification and 'to be'

From:Pablo Flores <fflores@...>
Date:Monday, September 28, 1998, 13:40
Steg Belsky wrote:
On Sun, 27 Sep 1998 15:02:59 -0300 Pablo Flores
>Rokbeigalmki also somewhat follows this pattern, with a slight >difference. > >_wa'tezat_ /t E z a t/ = "to be", the normal and usual "i am a person", >etc. >_wa'tzat_ /ts a t/ = "to exist" >_wa'netz_ /n E ts/ = "to be at a place" > >However, adjective-verbs aren't used to mean "to be tall", etc., >(although that's how they were used in Ancient Rokb.), they're used to >mean "to *become* tall" etc.
Draseleq has a related form for these. It uses either one of two prefixes, (e)n- and sat-. (E)n- tends to lose the initial e- if it creates a new open syllable. Sat- is much less frequent. Both prefixes tend to assimilate with the following consonants, and sometimes it's reciprocal. You can combine them with the reflexive prefix ten-: _graisten_ "to be tall" _engraisten_ "to make (sbdy.) tall" _tenengraisten_ "to make oneself tall" _konten_ "to be strong" _sakkonten_ "to make (sbdy.) strong" I guess "to become strong" would use the passive voice: _sakkontimban_ "to be made strong" _tensakkontimban_ "to be made strong (by oneself)" En- is quite productive, tho not standard. Some constructions like these are idiomatic, like _tenenqlonataut_ "we'll be great and famous", lit. "we'll make ourselves big" --Pablo Flores begin 600 WINMAIL.DAT M>)\^(C03`0:0" `$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y 0```````#H``$-@ 0` M`@````(``@`!!) &`#P!```!````# ````,``# #````"P`/#@`````"`?\/ M`0```%(`````````@2L?I+ZC$!F=;@#=`0]4`@````!#;VYS=')U8W1E9"!, M86YG=6%G97,@3&ES= !33510`$-/3DQ!3D= 0E)/5TY632Y"4D]73BY%1%4` M```>``(P`0````4```!33510`````!X``S !````&@```$-/3DQ!3D= 0E)/ M5TY632Y"4D]73BY%1%4````#`!4,`0````,`_@\&````'@`!, $````=```` M)T-O;G-T<G5C=&5D($QA;F=U86=E<R!,:7-T)P`````"`0LP`0```!\```!3 M3510.D-/3DQ!3D= 0E)/5TY632Y"4D]73BY%1%4```,``#D`````"P! .@$` M```"`?8/`0````0````````#DSD!"( '`!@```!)4$TN36EC<F]S;V9T($UA M:6PN3F]T90`Q" $$@ $`'P```%)%.B!#;&%S<VEF:6-A=&EO;B!A;F0@)W1O M(&)E)P`H"@$%@ ,`#@```,X'"0`<``H`* `$``$`,0$!(( #``X```#.!PD` M' `*`!P`# `!`"T!`0F `0`A````.$$R0D,Q0S1"0S4V1#(Q,3E#,CDT-#0U M-3,U-# P,# `Z08!`Y &`!P&```2````"P`C```````#`"8```````L`*0`` M`````P`V``````! `#D`(.:C?^7JO0$>`' ``0```!\```!213H@0VQA<W-I M9FEC871I;VX@86YD("=T;R!B92<```(!<0`!````%@````&]ZN5_G,3!*XM6 MO!'2G"E$15-4`````!X`'@P!````!0```%--5% `````'@`?# $````;```` M9F9L;W)E<T!T874N=V%M86YI+F%P8RYO<F<```,`!A!H37LV`P`'$/X#```> M``@0`0```&4```!35$5'0D5,4TM95U)/5$4Z3TY354XL,C=315 Q.3DX,34Z M,#(Z-3DM,#,P,%!!0DQ/1DQ/4D534D]+0D5)1T%,34M)04Q33U-/34572$%4 M1D],3$]74U1(25-0051415).+%=)``````(!"1 !````D00``(T$``"]" `` M3%I&=37/=L;_``H!#P(5`J0#Y 7K`H,`4!,#5 (`8V@*P'-E=&XR!@`&PP*# M,@1&`@!P<')Q,2 (50>R`H!]?PJ ",\)V0* "H$-L0M@;F!G,3 S- K[$O%S M;#$X"J #8'0%D 5 4P$9(&<@0F5L<VNB>1@,("!W&0(Z& \G&10*CQO?($\# MH%-U(&XL(#(W!E%P( @Q.3D:\#$U.C! ,CHU.2 M%X PF# @4 &@%3 @1A4Q M=P>0'/<:2SX=OQD4" !K$&)E:6<'0&UK:;H@!T!S(9 EX > =Q' *P5 `A!L M%3!W!"!T:/T$`" =( ) !)$?@ /P)R#+); F`&PE0&AT(A\C+S48NF0&D&8$ MD GP8V5^+BC?*>\</RR_+<\9!5\H=V$G&2!Z)G!?("(O!4!%('HH070O8" ] M(")T(9 E("+C'X G(&4@;@6P`, #($$`<&0@=7-U-,$BM26A;2A!< 20)>!N M-!#O+T\P7QBZ$@!C+%\WGS%?3G0RA00@,TEE> 0`=*XB.;\ZSSO>;A(`>C*Q M_P.@,P`]0#-X); %0#7Q"V!_+# ^?S^/+G]$'T4O&/9(&2;@978$D!^ 861J MU1DQ:4G0+4G18CU1+ '_,E U(0F )Q AD > `Y%"M7\!D"; -!$Y<C:/1[\8 MJRB_!T G( A@** G$29P)P0@]U"P!^ T07D;$"OQ2X0+@#P@02P@") ","3C M+BGY-"-Y)U(V,\!-GTZO&+K=3!<J)2 %H > *DS$.6QC'8\<YD1R81'P%8 G M^&4Y<5%P6[ H016@"V!_&2 U$ (0-*!=(C0R$? N_"!)2W,$("4P-$$%P (@ MZ31@;V8G$'<AD!.@#< ,:7@'D!^ *&4I;BHM-.-S)G M.:8H1?]@DAD@-0`G M`2&0%3 1\#0S_PN *! ',3E@8+ &D%*@!4"_!0!,(!D@/5)!H ?@;S80^0.@ M<WDFP"%A7@$&$&$P\U*@!"!M=1&P675E\ 01N0-097$*4 (P7A!"&1"_*#!? MUF(C2]);L "0;0,0_USA)_0T0B:D"X 9H 6@`(#_`B `<#U 2@$U`%EU)A)* M<+\'@B@045$5H%,`&/%C!T"]7A!9"&!D4 .16'%B"X#_8O,UT&IG7^%E\#XP M2=!?Q=EB(BTZ6759=5\)P MP_SY0"? RL$QJ<E8)\'+<`,"":S1@*'-B9'E3 MH/]SW&(Q=+]UPE\A6\%?<7/Y_7)6:P(A<SD^4 -@%U!T)SUA$&MZFG6[>XQ9 M=4D@_F<*4 01,[18<GMV&Q (8#YL-1)B]%F@:<%P\79OWFDL,''>?'4'<&(` M<'-7?P# #;![?F(Q@^^$_5!@8NM1\'C5*7F=16"A)T%GX/\H$'$"!'!FP$IR M-"(AD#2 _P5 /E T\0L19A& <FN2>Y#WBW)KH6*P:7717<-+$E*@]RNP`W%* M<&,?@(Y"<>UW4^YQ%3!KX &0=3*A,Z!)L+XG)L!"X@G!0R(U`68UP/T(8',T M$2B :"&2)7B$"' _6\%)T 0@;U!^CEEU+2T7(5\%P!3!`)C `````P`0$ `` M```#`!$0`````$ `!S"@Q.76X^J]`4 `"#"@Q.76X^J]`1X`/0`!````!0`` +`%)%.B `````Z-\` ` end