Re: first try at conlanging
From: | erwan ar skoul <erwan.arskoul@...> |
Date: | Sunday, January 6, 2002, 17:31 |
Kala Tunu a écrit :
> wow. half of the consonants are labials even if we count in u and i as w and y.
They are not to be considered as such, they have semi-vowel values only as the las
element of a diphthong, and only if brief. Pie is to be pronounced as pi-e
>
> what happened to the regional k or glottal stop? :-)
gone, did not like them :-)
> so what do you do with verbs of intellectual activity and sensations? for
> instance: "i fear the dog". who is at the origin of the action? the undergoer
> "i" or the topic "dog"?
>
one considers that the origin of the action is the person undergoing it if the
action is voluntary (I am thinking) and the topic when the action is unvoluntary, so
in the case of the dog one would have me-mê êveliu-lou tao (I-passive dog-active to
fear)
> i think other exotic tribes called the Frankofones handle affixed pronouns like
> that: "Ce cartable, mon portable je l'ai pas mis dedans."
> "Mon pere, ce truc je lui dirai jamais, à lui."
> :-)
>
>
chut, cest pas linterprétation de lacadémie :-)
By the way, Breton does the same, in a wilder way
>
> i know you know tahitian is VSO with prefixes and no pronominal affixes, so why
> tahitian?
It is the language I have used as a starting point for the phonetism (with samoan).
Now, the grammar is quite different, but phonetism is one of the most difficult
things to master in a language;
> do your verbal affixes "inside" and "outside" show the direction of
> the verb like "mai" and "atu" in tahitian?
No, they indicate the relationship between the verb and its oblique complement.
> and by tagalog, do you mean that the
> verbal affixes make Lautôpaei a trigger conlang?
only for the oblique complement, but with that restriction yes. The fae suffix only
indicates that the noun clause it marks is a direct complement.
>
>
> what's arawakan grammar like
> btw?
OSV (well, in a language of the family), it is the only natlang to do so.
> could you break down the predicate bit here? what's the root and what are the
> affixes for? for instance do you have affixes like "in favor of" or "detrimental
> to"? also more about the "inside" stuff, please: it looks definitely different
> :-)
>
ok
Nini-mê : we exclusive with the mê passive mark
ve-lou formal you with the lou active mark
euhâmoo-fae temptation with the fae oblique mark (indicates an indirect
relationship with the verb)
au : not (always prefixed for verb)
ôluvahîpa : verb ôlu (to drive, to lead) followed by the following suffixes
va : indicates the action is made in defavor of somebody
hî : inside, indicates the fae marked complement is a locative
pa : imperative suffix
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