Re: CHAT: affricates/grammar help/intransitivity/free word order

Hi!

"J. 'Mach' Wust" <j_mach_wust@...> writes:
> Pascal A. Kramm and me wrote alternately:
>
> >>>The Duden variety has also lots of features which are definitely not
> >>>found in most varieties of Standard German.
> >>
> >>The pronunciation? That's new to me. Could you give some examples?
> >
> >Just take the "new spelling". Most people will e.g. pronounce "Gemse" as
> >/gemz@/ (or /jemz@/ in some varieties), but not as /g&mse/, as they would
> >have to according to the new spelling.
>
> As I've pointed out many times, this feature is a peculiarity of your local
> pronunciation (and of some varieties of old-fashioned Swiss standard
> German). If you can prove me that most people pronounce it that way, I will
> instantly believe you. Unless you do so, however, I will believe what I've
> read about German phonology (by far not only in the Duden) and my own
> experience. Don't return the burden of proof on me, since it's you who is
> claiming that virtually every linguist who describes the use of German is wrong.
>...
Thanks for still having the energy to correct Pascal.  He is indeed
constantly spreading weird ideas about Standard German, especially
about his most liked topic /e/.  And he is probably confusing people
who do not know about German phonology.  Very annoying.

There is probably not a single linguist of German who agrees with
Pascal's ideas.

**Henrik

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