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Re: CHAT: affricates/grammar help/intransitivity/free word order

From:Henrik Theiling <theiling@...>
Date:Monday, January 3, 2005, 10:40
Hi!

"J. 'Mach' Wust" <j_mach_wust@...> writes:
> Pascal A. Kramm and me wrote alternately: > > >>>The Duden variety has also lots of features which are definitely not > >>>found in most varieties of Standard German. > >> > >>The pronunciation? That's new to me. Could you give some examples? > > > >Just take the "new spelling". Most people will e.g. pronounce "Gemse" as > >/gemz@/ (or /jemz@/ in some varieties), but not as /g&mse/, as they would > >have to according to the new spelling. > > As I've pointed out many times, this feature is a peculiarity of your local > pronunciation (and of some varieties of old-fashioned Swiss standard > German). If you can prove me that most people pronounce it that way, I will > instantly believe you. Unless you do so, however, I will believe what I've > read about German phonology (by far not only in the Duden) and my own > experience. Don't return the burden of proof on me, since it's you who is > claiming that virtually every linguist who describes the use of German is wrong. >...
Thanks for still having the energy to correct Pascal. He is indeed constantly spreading weird ideas about Standard German, especially about his most liked topic /e/. And he is probably confusing people who do not know about German phonology. Very annoying. There is probably not a single linguist of German who agrees with Pascal's ideas. **Henrik

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