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Re: Unilang: the Phonotactics

From:Oskar Gudlaugsson <hr_oskar@...>
Date:Saturday, April 21, 2001, 3:27
On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 18:10:06 +0000, Raymond Brown <ray.brown@...>
wrote:

>Getting your average anglophone to pronounce either final [h] (a challenge >if ever there was one) or even [x] won't be easy. Why do you think we are >now saddled with all those weird -gh spellings? > >Scots _loch_ and German _Bach_ are normally pronounced by my fellow >countrymen with final /k/; and Van Gogh becomes /v&ngQf/.
Actually, since I don't think Unilang will be reality anytime this century, I'm not particularly concerned with current preferences of Anglophones, no offence :) Allowing final /h/ (pronounceable as any dorsal fricative, such as [x], [X], or [h]) would be in keeping with _my_ general level of moderation between "ease" and "renderability", though I fully respect reasonable concessions in either direction. For now, I like final /h/.
>Sounds good to me. > >>With >>final /m/ added, there's a problem: so it's allowed to assimilate >>final /n/, but not final /m/? > >So what do we do to avoid assimilation? Put in an extra [p] as in _dreamt_ >/drEmpt/? What about the sequence -mk- /mpk/ ???
I kind of solved the final /m/ thing in my last letter. I need to make some changes to that whole scheme, though: (I wrote) "Reduced syllables are basically the "endings" used in the morphology; they are unaccented, by definition. They have their own inventory of more distinctive phonemes: the vowels /a i u/, and the finals /n s r/; if it is a "stem syllable", i.e. part of a bisyllabic stem, it may have one onset C from the following list: /p t k m n l r s/. So reduced syllabes are CVC, and grammatic endings (a subset of reduced syllables) can only be VC. A further limitation: the following medial combinations (across syllable- boundaries: the final C of one + the onset C of the next) are legal: any /n s l r/ + /p b t d k g/; /sm lm rm hm fl fr ns ls rs/. Note that some of the combinations here are already ruled out by other rules above; e.g. /lb/ won't occur because only accented syllables can have final /l/ or initial /b/, and two accented syllables won't coexist in one morpheme." This is kind of silly, at least as I put it. What I meant was for there to be a system of fewer phonemic distinctions in unaccented syllables; some of the results above are kind of strange. Unaccented stem syllables should have /b d g/ as well, so /'alba/ would be legal. I simply didn't like the idea of /'asga/, and still don't; here's how I solve it, and how I rationalize it: the sequences /sb sd sg/ are disallowed, as are any other sequences of frics + voiced plosives; reason being that the frics are unvoiced by default (being obstruents), while the liquids and nasals aren't (being sonorants). Óskar