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Re: vocabulary

From:Roger Mills <rfmilly@...>
Date:Thursday, December 16, 2004, 5:28
And Rosta wrote:

> Dirk: > > The first method, pulling them out of the air, *I* think has the > > potential to be vastly better, since it allows the language to grow > > organically, at least phonologically. >(snip) > I in fact don't have any clear of idea of what the reason is. But > my hunch is that your conlanger schooled in linguistics tends to > invent the language description rather than the language proper; > they tend to design rather than to 'discover'.
Guilty as charged :-))) They tend towards
> the rationality of design and away from the intuitiveness of art. > I also tend to agree with the opinion you generously impute to me. >
I don't disagree that pulling words out of the air can be a good thing; but L1 and other smatterings of language tend to influence things, I think. Or else there's _too much_ regularity. My very first effort at age 13-14 was very Latinate, with a dash of Sanskrit I'd picked up from the encylopedia. (There was a "bh", but also "mh" [aspirated m].) It amounted mainly to about 10 pages of verbal conjugation. All I can remember of it is that the infinitive ended in -anoi, and the 1-2-3 person pres. indic. active endings were -mi, -si, -ti. The second effort got much further, with quite a few religious texts. It also had an amusing writing system, somewhat Thai-like, mixture of single C and V, assorted miscellaneous syllabic characters, plus one or two polysyl. ones; I recall that -ainigi was one character, and served as the dative ending. The writing system somewhat constrained the word forms........ I remember, but will not translate, bits of it (for proper effect, should be chanted): Munane Itha Theno, fekerud inekadrud mundei iminane deniei.... E bhlithe, ikimorithaz bhlishu bhlithe.... (note bh again!!) At least it's certainly not an Engl. clone, though someone might detect a bit of deformed Latin. Actually, 'tis pity it got lost.

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John Cowan <jcowan@...>