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Re: Hot, Cold, and Temperature

From:Philippe Caquant <herodote92@...>
Date:Thursday, March 25, 2004, 8:51
In the conceptual language I would make if I wasn't so
lazy, I would tranlaste for ex "the water is warm" by
something like:

water temporary-state temperature(4;E5)

- 'water', 'temporary-state' and 'temperature' would
be entries of the lexicon (thus semantically defined,
of course)
- 4 would be number, or value, 4
- E5 would refer to an arbitrary scale, also defined
in the lexicon, like (closed discrete
scale;1,2,3,4,5), meaning five steps, 1 being the
lowest, 5 the highest. Of course I could use another
scale if i wanted it.

To be more precise, I had to add:
- a determiner on 'water'
- a tense + aspect on 'temporary-state' (or to the
whole sentence)
- maybe some more ornaments if needed.

If I wanted to refer to always warm water (geothermic
for ex), I would use sthg like 'intrinsic-property'
instead of 'temporary-state'.

--- Nokta Kanto <red5_2@...> wrote:
> I was in the shower, thinking, "this water needs > more temperature"... It led > me to wonder how languages name properties that fall > on a continuous scale, > such as hot-cold, long-short, > loquatious-breviloquent, etc. We have a few > scales where the property gets its own name: > hot-cold-temperature, > far-near-distance... while for many, it is derived > from one of the > adjectives: long-short-length, strong-weak-strength, > wrong-right-wrength. > (Well, it should be a word.) > > Esperanto and other logical-leaning languages prefer > to define one of the > directions in terms of its opposite, instead of > having separate roots for > opposites. What about the name for the property, > though? Do your languages > not have such words (can't say "What is its length", > have to say "How (much) > long is it?"), do they derive from the augmented > word (length), or from the > diminished word (shortness), or from another root > altogether (duration)? > > ---- > "Everyone's different, except me." --Noktakanto
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