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Re: THEORY(?): ARSE (was: RE: [CONLANG] Latin (was Language universal?)

From:And Rosta <a.rosta@...>
Date:Monday, February 19, 2001, 23:34
John:
> And Rosta scripsit: > > > > I don't know if it was a euphemism, or just an ordinary sound change > > > [ars] > [a:s] > [&s].
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> > Or is the idea that the phonology of this taboo word has been borrowed > > into high prestige rhotic accents from low prestige nonrhotic accents > > (New England Proletarian, Southern, AAVE), as has happened, for instance > > among young southern Brits who tend to replace local /bA:st@d/ with > > 'hard' 'gritty' northern /b&st@d/? > > That can't be the direct explanation: nonrhotic dialects don't front [A] > to [&] when historic [r] is lost. Perhaps the true history is > [ars] > [a:s] > [as], with [&s] then created by "interdialectal > borrowing with analogical sound change". > > I don't know the proper name for this process, but I can give an > example. A child speaking a rhotic dialect and whose idiolect did not > yet contain the word "God" /gAd/ borrowed the word from another child > who spoke a non-rhotic dialect. The second child's /gAd/ became > the first child's /gArd/, homonymous with GUARD.
Is this perhaps the origin or dialectal US /warS/ _wash_? [stuff that had me ROTFL snipped but kept to be treasured]
> (This next verse is irrelevant, but I can't resist it; in some editions of > the King James Bible, words not present in the original but supplied by > the translator are *italicized*, making a comic contrast with the modern > use of italics for emphasis, thus: > > 1 Kings 013:027 And he spake to his sons, saying, Saddle me the ass. And they > saddled *him*.)
I'm a non-Xian non-churchgoer (tho a KJV fan), but have occasionally failed to avoid hearing services broadcast, and the highchurchier ones appear to employ a style of KJV reading where the italicized words are read with emphasis. (Ray wd probably know more about this.) So the verse would be equally funny when read aloud.
> 2 Peter 002:016 But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb ass speaking with > man's voice forbad the madness of the prophet.
Peter? (If a joke, I don't get it.) --And.

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John Cowan <cowan@...>