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Re: Here we go loup-garou

From:Dirk Elzinga <dirk.elzinga@...>
Date:Tuesday, July 10, 2007, 2:05
On 7/9/07, Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...> wrote:
> or something like that. I'm reëntering the conlang fray. > > Target: Okaikiar > Mission: Beautify. > > Okaikiar, as she is right now, I find aesthetically displeasing. It's all > in the eye and ear of the beholder, of course, but I just don't like the > phonology. As an example, here's the paternoster: > > Uza zi dinkmarkurd or 'uz& zi dink'mar\kUr\d Or\ > Limzar don nudir 'limza\r don nu'dir\ > Markiar don maid mar\'kiar\ don ma'id > M'ziar don ed m@'ziar don Ed > Maizim ram dinkmarkurd ma'jizim r&m diNk'mar\kur\d > Lokand m'lor zøn zyrkom zi rork 'lok&nd m@'lOr\ z2n 'zyr\kom zi rOr\k > Uz lymkiard zi dolk uz lym'kiar\d zi dolk > Ram zø lymkard zi dolkraz. r\&m z2 'lymkar\d zi 'dolkr\&z > Uz kondziark zim lolz zik uz kond'ziar\k zim lolz zik > L'ro m'kun zim lolz l@'ro m@'kun zim lolz > Ziin dan ømkraz markiard zi'in d&n '2mkr&z mar\'kiar\d > Uz k'ndard uz k@n'dar\d > Uz køkald uz 'k2kald > Ruzurd. 'r\uzur\d > > So I'm revisiting the phonology in an attempt to get a new one that is still > consistent with the established proper names and that still works with the > script. Suggestions welcome. Do you all find the above as > unsightly/harsh/hard on the ears as I do? If so, what do you think would > improve it?
I dunno---I like the look and sound of it.
> Known proper names: Dankar ['d&Nka`r\], Zan [z&n], Tysor ['tajsO`r\], Ral > [r&l], M'kei [m@'kej]. > Vowels: & aj a`r\ ej o`r\ > Consonants: d k l m n N r\ s t z > > Since we have both [d] and [t], chances are that since we have [k], we also > have [g]. The existence of [m] makes the existence of other bilabials > probable but not necessary. I find it quite probable that the [N] is an > allophone of /n/ occurring before velars.
It is often the case that languages with a voicing distinction in the obstruents will still fail to have /g/ as a counterpart to /k/, so the lack of /g/ should be okay. By the same token, you can miss /p/ but still have /b/. (This has to do with the aerodynamics of voicing.)
> The script as-is supports only 8 syllable onsets and 8 nuclei, but up to 64 > codas, and it can be readily extended to support as many onsets as codas.
It would seem then that the script doesn't capture all of the available distinctions. I count 9 consonants (excluding /N/ as allophonic) and 11 vowels (in the transcription of the Pater Noster). Is this right? Dirk

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